Prompted by another thread about conscription in Ukraine.
None.
I think that the exact measure of whether or not a war is justified is whether or not people are willing to fight it.
It’s very rare for a war to be a direct threat to the people. That’s generally only the case in a situation like Gaza, in which the invaders explicitly intend to not only take control of the land, but to kill or drive off the current inhabitants.
As a general rule, the goal is simply to assume control over the government, as is the case in Ukraine.
So the war is generally not fought to protect and/or serve the interests of the people directly, but to protect and/or serve the interests of the ruling class. And rather obviously, the ruling class has a vested interest in the people fighting to protect them and/or serve their interests. But the thing is that the people do not necessarily share that interest.
And that, IMO, is exactly why conscription is always wrong. If the people do not feel a need to protect and/or serve the interests of the rulers, then that’s just the way it is. That choice rightly belongs to the people - not to the rulers.
As a general rule, the goal is simply to assume control over the government, as is the case in Ukraine.
Yeah no, that’s just plain wrong. Russia, at the very least, is committing cultural genocide if not much worse. Ukrainian families get broken up so their kids can be better indoctrinated.
When you’re being invaded.
Absolutely none whatsoever. Governmyth criminals have no right to tell me to go die for them. Go fuck yourselves.
When the existence of your countries sovereignty is threatened.
None. If you weren’t willing to fight for your country, then it’s just the powerful forcing you to keep them in power.
