8 points

In the 90s there was this purple dinosaur from a children’s TV show that everyone seemed to hate. I don’t know anything about him or why we were supposed to hate him. To know anything about him you would have to have watched a show for 3 year olds, so if you did that then you deserve to be annoyed by it. Right?

permalink
report
reply
1 point
  1. Many of the best children’s shows could be quite watchable
  2. No, you didn’t have to have chosen your own hell, the commercials were all over kids TV. It was horrible, you couldn’t avoid that hideous song
permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

It was because he sang the “I Love You” song. It was uncool.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

And there were constant commercials where he did that. Any sane adult would be quickly driven crazy by how ubiquitous, how repetitive and sappy it was.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Satan

permalink
report
reply
4 points

Satan as in disgruntled, restricted without being explained about reasons, Paradise Lost or Melkor in Tolkien’s works kind is pretty much righteous in rebelling. Methods used during the said rebelling is questionable, thom

permalink
report
parent
reply
40 points

Skyler White. I didn’t even know that she was hated quite a lot. I always thought she is actually the most sane person given the situation she’s in.

permalink
report
reply
-1 points

I like how these conversations always ignore the wrong things Skylar did, such as cheating with Ted. It’s always “well Walter was the devil, so anything she did was ok”. She still begins the show by showing very little care for his birthday and making it feel like a chore. She’s literally part of why he feels he’s in a hum drum boring life with no control. His character ark is largely about him going from a meek high school professor afraid to do anything into a completely fearless kingpin who finally has control over his life. Yes, the point is that he goes too far. But it’s also shown pretty clearly early on that he feels powerless and like his life is out of control(you know, like a sudden terminal cancer diagnosis might do).

Was Walter a bad person? Yes. Was Skylar also a bad person who didn’t truly see him as an equal and who, when given the chance, cheats on him remorselessly? Also yup.

Multiple people can be bad. Even Hank, arguably one of the most moral characters, suffers from major blindspots and is a dismissive dick to Marie.

People defending Skylar are the kind of people that say “I can do what I want because it’s a free country” and get shocked when they learn there are consequences to their actions, even if justified.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

She’s hated because Walt turned everyone against her - including the viewer, it seems

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Same, and I suspect that not many people ever did hate Skylar… But the narrative makes for good content, so the few that did hate on Skylar got portrayed as the majority.

IIRC, though, Anna Gunn mentioned having a lot of negative interactions with the audience conflating her with her character… So who knows.

permalink
report
parent
reply
25 points

She is hated because she is acting sanely in this situation and is constantly trying to stop Walter’s insanity.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Thanos; I can understand his reasoning, his solution doesn’t favor anyone either and seemed painless.

permalink
report
reply
13 points

I thought the reasoning portrayed in the movies made a lot less sense than the reasoning in the comics.

If his goal is to eliminate poverty and balance the resources vs consumption, why not double the resources rather than destabilize the entire universe in the process of halving the consumption of resources?

A shortsighted and foolish plan at least makes sense when it’s in the pursuit of romance.

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

Except for his solution is basically, “Let’s put the population back a whole 40 years or so, while massively disrupting society and the economy and being guaranteed to traumatize virtually everyone remaining. That will fix everything!” The only person who could think that was at all reasonable would have to have a grade school understanding of how the world works and no interpersonal connections, or what they mean to most people.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

And then he destroys the stones, so it’s not he planned for the snap to be the first of an every-few-decades population culling. This dork actually thought he had a permanent fix and threw away his tools in confidence that it was.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

The next generations will bounce back. They will not have experienced the thanos snap.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

So at best this turned the population clock back 40 or 50 years. How is that a solution to anything? This is like pining about the good old days. Also, I suggest you read a little about generational trauma, because I’m pretty sure having half of everyone you know disappearing, and that applying to everyone, is going to have a little of that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Thanos’ reasoning is idiotic.

People are a resource. If you eliminated half the people, not only have you wasted all resources that went into those people, but you’ve wasted everything those people could produce. Minus half of agricultural workers would probably mean way less than half production. The post-snap world would be a place of austerity and starvation. You could recover sure, but it’d be time for another snap.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

On the surface I understand, but as you dig deeper the logistics don’t make a lot of since with the “indiscriminate” part. Let’s say you had two warring factions of almost equal power. How would the snap know to take an equal amount so that there isn’t a massive power shift which could lead to a much more negative outcome. What if there was a single, very influencial person that got snapped. Things like that. His goal was to alieviate suffering but there are so many better ways he could have approached it. It’s possible I’d need to dive into the backstory more to determine what made him choose that specific action.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

About the 2 faction problem, theoretically 50% of each faction will be gone. Chances are big that the power balance remains the same. But you can idd argue that making 1 faction completely dissappear is also 50% and statistically possible.

About the influential people (let add geniuses to be complete). Those persons are not unique, nobody is irreplaceable. Someone else will step up to be equally influential, Someone else will figure stuff out.

The reason he choose that action is not to be biased and give everyone an equally 50% chance of survival. In his eyes, a cleaning lady deserves an equal chance to a CEO.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’d argue in the marvel universe it would be inevitable with the faction problem. The marvel universe is much much larger than our own and much more heavily populated, so even if it was a small chance, there’s many more times that chance could happen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I think that’s where we differ in analysis. If you had a charismatic leader who was snapped and another that was ruthless who wasn’t snapped, even if you lost 50% on both sides, it could greatly cause an imbalance.

As for a genius or such, it could set progress back by decades or more or they could have produced something that had a positive effect to change the course of their race.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

Painless? Even accepting that emotional pain doesn’t count (which I don’t agree with) 50% of every person involved in operating a piece of dangerous machinery just suddenly disappearing absolutely caused widespread injury and death among those left behind.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-3 points

Uncle Iroh
I know he’s a genocidal war criminal, but he lost his son and traveled a long path of tea and paisho eventually cherishing and mentoring his nephew.

Uncle Ruckus
He’s a simple man, tryin’ to make his way in the world. Life’s dealt him a tough hand, but he played it the best he could. He worked hard, respected the values he was raised with, and tries to bring a bit of order to this chaotic world. He ma be rough around the edges and may not make words so good, but he believes in tough love and speaking his mind.

permalink
report
reply
20 points

Does anyone really hate Iroh?

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Where in the world have you seen Iroh getting “more hate than he deserves”

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I think it’s safe to say no one loves Iroh as much as he deserves.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I’ve never looked at the Uncle movie with John Candy in this way before. Not sure what to think.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Ask Lemmy

!asklemmy@lemmy.world

Create post

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have fun

Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'

This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spam

Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reason

Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.

It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.

Please don’t post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


Community stats

  • 11K

    Monthly active users

  • 4.8K

    Posts

  • 254K

    Comments