I’m so tired of this shit. It’s a spitting contest about who should be the winners and literally everyone has lost sight of things that matter. It’s time to do away with the parties and start new ones.
Well, yeah, but…
The US supreme Court basically just said corruption is okay, and them said that the president has complete immunity even if he murders his opponents or stages a coup.
At this point, democrat or republican doesn’t matter, this supreme court is corrupt and fucked, and also has to be done away.
Mmm… empty performative gesturing from AOC.
Great, what are AOC’s plans afterwards? Is she planning to resign for voting to prevent the rail unions from striking yet?
Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.
Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.
I realize you’re likely being rhetorical, but in case you or any other users are actually curious, the fact of the matter is that criminal acts, including assassination, are not protected by presidential immunity. Here’s a breakdown:
Official Acts are things the President does as part of their job, like signing laws, directing the military, and managing foreign policy.
Criminal Acts are illegal activities, and they are not protected by presidential immunity. Assassination is definitely illegal and falls under this category.
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee due process of law, meaning that the government cannot deprive anyone of “life, liberty, or property” without fair legal procedures and protections. Additionally, Executive Order 12333, explicitly prohibit the U.S. government from engaging in assassination.
In Nixon v. Fitzgerald (1982): The case granted the President immunity from civil damages for official acts, but clarified that this doesn’t apply to everything a President does. Unofficial acts, like crimes, are not protected.
In Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952): The Supreme Court ruled that President Truman’s seizure of steel mills was unconstitutional. Even though it was for “official use” and it was for “the good of the country” it was nevertheless deemed not part of his presidential powers and therefore not covered.
Presidential immunity protects certain official actions, but it doesn’t cover illegal activities. Assassination would be an unofficial act and is definitely prosecutable.
Only in so much as the Supreme Court decides that it is “legal”.
So the details are that the Supreme Court left it open to interpretation as to what could be considered an “Official Act”. If the Supreme Court decides your murder spree is an “Official Act” you are good to go.
So if the Supreme Court Justices are conservative when Biden goes to trial, then yes, he can be found guilty.
I bet if you killed everyone on the court and in the legislature and replaced them with your personal sycophants, they would probably agree it was an ‘official act’
That’s basically the entire republican plan. It’s all spelled out in Project 2025. Literally replacing the entire government with Trump loyalists, and military tribunals for anyone who cannot be directly fired and replaced. Trump has even said that Mitch McConnell is going to be tried in front of a military tribunal.
As a note here, military tribunal means no due process, and no defense. Just straight to the guilty verdict and death penalty.
Assassination is a good thought experiment because of this. It is literally up to “someone” to decide if X act was official.
And that someone will more than likely be the Supreme Court for a lot of things.
As much as I hate the political drama, Biden really needs to do something completely ridiculous to show everyone that this ruling isn’t sustainable.
He won’t though. And this shit will drag on and spiral with no checks.
Only if he orders the CIA to do it, it’s a personal act if he does it himself
He could declare the new Department of No Malarkey, appointment himself Chief DeMalarkier, and then declare a Malarkey Ceasing Spree.
No, because if he did, he would appoint new justices that would strike down the “presidents are kings” ruling.
This is what Democrats need. For the younger generations to be the adults in the room. It’s been time for it a over a decade ago. They should have been preparing lines of succession during the Obama era.
It’s pointless posturing. Thanks to people not turning out to vote in 2022, the Republicans control the House. They’re not going to support this.
Kinda tired of this take. Corporations and the billionaires who control them have captured our democracy and they’re not going to support this either. But sure, darn those hypothetical and inevitably too-leftist non-voters!
Corporations aren’t suddenly going to stop being evil. You can sit around and blame them all you want, but that’s not going to change anything.
If a plane falls out of the sky, do you go around blaming gravity? It’s ultimately the cause, but doing so is pointless. Instead, you concentrate on the things that can be changed.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
That’s not what the data says. Interestingly, Republicans didn’t vote more frequently than Dems.
Your own sources says that the 20% of people who voted in a previous election but not 2022 are mostly left leaning.
