124 points

Just tried it out with my proton account. Looks great! It’s very simple, but I also like that about it. And of course being private is wonderful.

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Simplicity is an underrated feature. I’m really excited to see this come out because I’m becoming a bigger fan of proton every day.

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I don’t see anything different… How did you access it?

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From what I read it’s being released to users gradually I think?

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It’s rolling out slowly. I got access to it yesterday :)

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How is it private?

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Today we’re announcing a new end-to-end encrypted, collaborative document editor that puts your privacy first. Docs in Proton Drive are built on the same privacy and security principles as all our services, starting with end-to-end encryption. Docs let you collaborate in real time, leave comments, add photos, and store your files securely. Best of all, it’s all private — even keystrokes and cursor movements are encrypted.

Literally the second paragraph of the post (but I’m sure you haven’t read it, since you seem so busy replying to every comment here about how Proton is becoming Microsoft or something).

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So sending a company your private key and trusting their servers to do E2E encryption despite them being able to modify their code whenever they feel like it to capture your password without encryption and masked in obfuscated JavaScript is now considered security? Wow, people really are gullible.

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ooooh I love this. Proton is just winning constantly these days.

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No they’re not. They can’t even finish a single solution, let alone actually make anything functional when you’re not using their proprietary servers. They’re becoming Microsoft.

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They can’t finish a single solution

Gee, it’s almost as if that’s the whole point of an ever-evolving SaaS platform.

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A SaaS solution that claims to be private but won’t provide the backend code to prove it. You don’t find it at all suspicious that they claim releasing backend code would make it less secure? What kind of security product is not open for inspection? The same kind of “security” you get from Microsoft.

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Releasing unfinished products and expect users to just make do while they launch the next product can’t be the solution either.

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All Their services are online based right? I don’t understand why using their proprietary servers is an argument here.

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So, if you want to have any sense of a service respecting you, it should be hosted on a server you can control?

No difference at all between the server of the world’s biggest advertiser and a server by a company that opens itself for audits and is in a country whole laws require no bullshit? Are you sure those two are the same? All or nothing?

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Because their primary audience is those gullible enough to believe they somehow can’t read your messages, yet they can easily capture your private password.

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Damn. Proton is doing a good job of stacking up W’s these days.

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They act just like Microsoft. Lot’s of people think Microsoft is successful. If you think Microsoft is the champion of privacy though you might be in a cult.

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45 points

Comparing proton with Microsoft like this is a joke.

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Really? So Proton saying that they can’t open source the backend code to improve security isn’t something Microsoft would say as well? Proton sells statements, but they don’t back up those statements with proof.

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I’ll tell you what. When proton ships a product that takes a screenshot of my desktop every 5 seconds and stores it in an unsecured DB any user on my computer can access, we’ll call them even.

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I’ll tell you what. If you can prove to me by pointing to the specific source code that would prevent Proton from capturing your private key password when you login or decrypt using their standard clients then I’ll join the Proton cult.

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I’d almost believe you were paid to hate on proton, but you’d get fired for how fucking dumb your arguments are.

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The only open source mentioned in the post is their encryption. Not the document editing software. OP please remove your change to the article title, it’s extremely misleading.

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Well, they’re not wrong. It is ‘open-source’, not Free Software.

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? It’s not open source, AFAIK.

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Open source ? Does that mean I can host my own ? Would it be compatible with other self hosted instance ?

EDIT: the only source code I found hasn’t been maintained for 3 years.

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As I’ve slowly been expanding my homelab, NextCloud caught my attention. I haven’t tried it quite yet, but it might be closer to what you’re looking for.

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Thanks, I’ll have a look

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If you do want to host your own google docs, look into Onlyoffice, or LibreOffice with Collabora

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