I realize this is a Linux community, but I was wondering why you still hate Windows. I mean, I love Linux, but I will not argue that it’s more convenient to the average person in most use cases to use Windows, I recently had to switch back to Windows and I realized how convenient it all was and how I was missing so many things because of my love for Linux. But at this point, Linux is a part of my personality and my self-image and I will not leave it, but I gotta be honest, it’s pretty convenient being on Windows. So, why have you guys chosen to still stay on Linux? Some reasons I can appreciate include
- The terrible privacy policies of Microsoft. It sometimes makes you feel like your computer is not owned by you but lent to you by Big Tech.
- The community and the spirit of sharing
- The joy of “figuring it out” and customizing everything you want to the minutest details
- FREEDOM!!!
sudo suKinda ties into the previous points, but still one of the best selling points, the freedom to do whatever you want is liberating. You can run a server on it or you can create a script while knowing you have control over almost every FOSS app there is or just destroy your whole system with one command. Idk, feels good man!
These are the big ones, but one must realize you are sacrificing many things while not using windows too, productivity can be much greater there if you are a normie, it’s really convenient! So yeah! Give me your reasons! Also, how many of you dual boot?
Linux is great, and does a lot of stuff right… however…
I just don’t get the people around there sometimes. They’re okay with spending 1000+ hours jumping between 30 different Linux distros and customizing their DE, dealing with Wine / virtualization crap. BUT they aren’t able to Windows 10 Enterprise and read the manual to get a clean usable system in 1/1000 of the time and effort.
How ironic.
Never seen that guide. Does it actually work?
I tried using firewall and registry, it kinda worked but system was acting wild at times and eventually would implode. Could be a me issue but i was spending too much time on it.
Once i switched to linux and set it up, there is less maintenance
Never seen that guide. Does it actually work?
Yes, best results with Enterprise.
It won’t implode, and it becomes a zero maintenance OS.
Windows out of the box is full of crap but we all know that a lot of large companies use it and Microsoft is kinda forced into making it feasible enough for those companies. If you’re managing let’s say 500+ machines you can’t deal with the bullshit that comes with Windows 10 Home / Pro and systems that break every week.
There are also a lot of govt agencies and private companies with very strict security policies that can’t just allow Windows to connect to MS and leak information around. If you simply disable what you don’t need by following that manual things will really work out.
On the corporate world those changes are typically applied using AD, however, if you apply them manually in group policy they’ll stick and you won’t be bothered. Don’t forget to check the link every time there’s a major version because they usually add stuff.
I installed Windows 10 Enterprise 1709 on my main desktop in 2018 and applied the stuff documented there… I’ve been upgrading since then and it’s currently running 22H2 just fine. No policy regressions like some people claim.
Microsoft is forced to provide ways for big customers to make Windows usable and those aren’t going away anytime soon, they’ve a financial incentive to do so.
I see. But I did look around for Enterprise but I could not figure where to get it as a normie.
I am assuming that is on purpose?
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This guide just helped me realize why I don’t use windows. The fact that you need to remove and not add is why I like Linux.
I think i’ve heard about this… does it mean in normie terms: MS gets unrestricted internet lane to your windows?
People who spend that much time configuring linux are doing it for fun. Majority of people switching to linux have a working install setup in less time than it takes to install windows
And that’s okay, however those same people are the ones saying Windows is unusable because it would take a very long time to disable analytics. This is the thing, people aren’t consistent.
How is that not consistent though? If someone’s argument is windows is usable because it takes to long to disable analytics the argument isn’t invalidated by them configuring Linux for 1000 hours. Linux comes out of the box with no analytics so they would only be inconsistent if they spent that 1000 hours trying to disable Linux analytics. I enjoy configuring Linux but I do not enjoy configuring my system to be malware free.
Because the only redeeming quality of Windows is the fact a lot of software works on Windows and only on Windows, which is also exactly the problem with Windows. It’s great WINE can exist, but not all platforms support WINE, and as an OpenBSD user first and foremost it means I can’t play many of my favorite games on my preferred platform.
Ultimately, Windows sucks and is a standard because our society puts corporate greed and thieves like Microsoft above superior projects; and even if Microsoft were firebombed off the planet tomorrow, they’re just a symptom of the problem, and it’s only be so long until another thief steps into Microsoft’s position and ruins everything again.
Hate is a strong word, indifferent is more the word I’d use.
And I’m indeifferent because I have used (GNU)Linux as my main desktop OS since 2005, and (GNU)Linux exclusively for the past 15 years. And now even games run fine on Linux, so to me it’s all benefits now.
So it’s just that Windows and everything Microsoft is irrelevant now, except for a classic game I still play occasionally with my wife.
Obviously the proprietary nature with all the problems that includes, was what motivated me to shift originally, and it is also the reason I don’t even want to dual boot Windows, not if it was free as in beer either.
- The joy of “figuring it out”
No absolutely not, I used to be an IT consultant, but like most people I like things to just work, and Linux has done that for many years now.
I do however like the freedom, and that I am not prevented from configuring my system like I want to. I remember Windows having the most ridiculous mechanisms to prevent me from for instance replacing something as banal as notepad as default/system text editor. Absolutely bullocks behavior by Microsoft IMO. I am very happy to have a system where I decide, and not some company that wants to lock me into their ecosystem.
PS: I have never tried anything Windows beyond Windows XP. But boy did Vista and Windows 8 convince me that I did the right thing switching to (GNU)Linux. Almost everybody I know were absolutely pissed about both.
Windows Vista was the most golden opportunity to buy expensive hardware for cheap, because it didn’t have drivers for Vista. Laughing my ass off about people who claim hardware lacks drivers for Linux, when it’s actually worse on Windows with every new release.
The joy of “figuring it out”No absolutely not, I used to be an IT consultant, but like most people I like things to just work, and Linux has done that for many years now.
My bad, I meant that for Linux.
except for a classic game I still play occasionally with my wife.
Cheers to that!
I don’t. I just like Linux.
Windows has basically become malware. It does a fuck ton of tracking, and all of its features are about appeasing shareholders over users.
If we want to get technical: I loathe it because even in the year 2024, it’s the only operating system I’ve witnessed that will absolutely grind to a halt when a third party application stops responding or crashes. There is no valid fucking reason why the parent system should be halted by an application that crashes.
Also, ads in the start panel. Absolutely not, Microsoft. No way in hell am I allowing that to live on a computer I own. Yes, I’m aware third party apps will address that but it shouldn’t be a thing to begin with.
Oh yeah, and it decided to automatically update itself to the latest version on my ASUS ROG laptop while the thing was closed and not in use. So upon booting it up and seeing ads in the UI, I wiped the system clean and installed Nobara. Bye bye. 👋
