Hy,

In your opinion do you prefer Bitwarden or Proton Pass and why?

It seems proton pass have better integration with Firefox.

Good and bad?

Thanks.

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I use Bitwarden because it easily syncs across devices, and it’s also more secure.

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Do you have a source for the secure part?

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Maybe they mean the security audits over the years: https://bitwarden.com/help/is-bitwarden-audited/

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That can say something about the safety of Bitwarden, but it cannot tell you that Bitwarden is more secure than Proton Pass.

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The hard on’s y’all get for password managers, and the Firefox circlejerks is baffling. Leads me to believe these “federated” instances have a double entendre everyone glosses over because of their shiny new toys.

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Vote with your feet if you don’t like the consensus

Also, do you have some reason for this apperant disdain?

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I use random passwords for every account and using a password manager is the best way I’ve found to manage that. Is there another method that you prefer?

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I get it, and they definitely make things easier on people. But how many times have we seen instances of people abusing their custodial privileges? My gripe is with the push I’ve seen to get people using these tools, more than the existence of them in general. Mnemonic techniques to remember your passwords will always be superior from a security perspective. It’s the same as crypto, “not your keys, not your coins.”

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That’s a good point, thanks for explaining. Something I try to remember is that you not only have to trust the company who’s managing your data, but you also have to trust them to protect it from bad actors.

I’m trusting Bitwarden for now, but eventually I’d like to move to a self-hosted option like Vaultwarden. I think that’s the best way to go if you’re confident in administering it.

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Mnemonic techniques are okay, but won’t you have to come up with a different one for every service you use? I mean if there’s a pattern, then a breach in any one of them could compromise all your passwords.

I myself use mnemonic password for my master password. And I’ve started to make my passwords longer randomly generated ones. I use a file based password manager as well. I think that’s a good mix of security and convenience.

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This is just one of the weirder comments I’ve read, like what did I just read here. Lol

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I have all things in Proton except password manager. I’m already using Bitwarden, and I don’t think keeping all your eggs in one basket is a good idea. That and I don’t want to support it, as Proton should be focusing on improving their existing products instead of creating new ones.

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Passwords are keys, not eggs. You wouldn’t hide your house keys all over town, you’d keep them on your key ring and maybe give a spare to a single trusted person that explicitly would not be carrying it around town exposing your key to the risk of theft.

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Eggs are pretty nutritious though (superfood alert), and you can bet your bottom dollar that I would be sharing all my eggs with the townsfolk. You know, as a learning experience, to teach about their worth.

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Bitwarden because it is open source.

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Both are open source

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I love bitwarden. I don’t use Firefox though. Any password manager you hold the keys on is good though. Used a few years now

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