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I really hate trans health care. It’s just health care. If they ain’t hurting anyone, leave them alone. Jesus.

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We don’t trust people under 21 with alcohol that affects them for a few hours. Letting kids make life altering decisions is irresponsible.

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Yeah, but I trust their doctors and their recommendations.

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Doctors do shit for money.

They’ll recommend whatever the parent asks for.

I want universal healthcare and even UBI, but this shit is just child abuse.

Edit to add: if you want to cut your dick off and call yourself a girl as an adult, I don’t care. If you convince your kids doctor to chemically castrate them, you should go to jail.

Doctors used to recommend all kinds of stupid shit. Lobotomies, literally transfusing COWS MILK into people because it’s white and will obviously make white blood cells.

They’re wrong about this, too.

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You are right we don’t trust kids. That is why doctors are involved.

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No one is ignoring it. The problem is that the bigots who are rightfully called bigots think they’re doctors and that people should listen to their medical advice rather than their doctor’s medical advice.

I assume you don’t have a medical degree, but please correct me on that.

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Wut?

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The bigots are the people that refuse to leave people who aren’t hurting anyone alone.

Your “concerns” are bullshit, only meant to justify your interference in other people’s lives.

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Conservatism needs to be extinguished wholesale. There is no such thing as a “good conservative” alive today. They are cancer.

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I agree, but I have a sneaking suspicion that we see the opposite happen in real time. Conservatism won’t just go away. It seems to be on course to take over everything pretty soon. If you’re anyone that the right doesn’t like, I would seriously start thinking about how to get out of here soon.

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it’s taking over a lot of places all over the world. “cancer” is right, and it’s metastasizing.

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Chill, this is lemmy, downvotes don’t matter here.

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i have many downvoted comments, i don’t do edits on them unless there’s clarification or a point to be made. this was about the point i was making. got automodded though for civility. i guess “pussies” is too much for lemmy to handle.

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FUCK OFF
TRANSPHOBES

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Terf Island: we already fucked off so hard we aren’t even in the EU anymore. That’s the maximum amount of fuck off we can manage

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I kind of get it, but maybe I also don’t fully understand what trans health care for kids is all about. (I’m not against it btw)

You can’t get a tattoo before you’re 18 because that’s (somewhat) permanent. Does trans care interfere with puberty in a way that’s irreversible?

I also realize what I just typed is probably comparing apples to oranges… maybe the people passing these laws are thinking the kids will grow up and change their minds - does that actually happen? (I doubt it, but just asking because I don’t know.)

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Kids under 18 aren’t legally able to start hormone therapy or get surgery. The most they can get is puberty blockers and therapy. Ppl who complain about Trans kids changing their mind are full of shit. Everything a minor receives as Trans health care is reasonable, safe, and reversible

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Puberty itself is full of irreversible changes. Having puberty blockers available to trans youth is important to prevent their bodies from making changes they don’t want, and is reversible later.

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Yeah, you basically nailed it. Trans healthcare for minors , if such a term would need defining would be the reduction of of permanent changes brought on by puberty. Generally, adults who started taking puberty blockers as a kid can either stop taking them later and have a (very likely mostly) normal puberty, or they can start pursuing more permanent changes, like hormone therapy.

A good chunk of the ‘debate’ is trying to separate normal people into ‘not trans’ and ‘lesser.’ What we want is really just comprehensive healthcare- same rules for everyone.

To your last point: trans-affirming surgeries have a vastly lower regret rate than most cosmetic surgeries, which is a very good reason to allow trans adults to choose to pursue them. The people passing these laws want a lower class. at no point does “protect trans children” ever come up in earnest.

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That’s what I was wondering too and maybe there needs to be more information on what exactly trans care for kids is all about. I honestly have no clue.

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Maybe that’s a good reason why this shouldn’t be a political issue but a medical one decided by experts in the field instead of politicians with influence from the general public.

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No reasoning should be necessary to keep government/politicians/anyone else out of people’s private lives - including (and ESPECIALLY) health care decisions.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

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Yes, it absolutely happens. That’s one reason they’re passing laws to stop it

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Cant stop the laws, but there are people helping to get individuals the treatment they need. Check out elevatedaccess.org

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