157 points

If something requires an “app” and a connection to “the cloud” for basic functionality, don’t buy it. This sort of abandonment by the manufacturer will always happen. Maybe it will last longer. Maybe it will be next week. But once the company has your money, the last thing they want to do is to spend any of that money providing you with support.

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The funny thing about this is that the first time I had that moment of realization was when I got the Sphero BB-8 toy from my kids for Christmas. It had a dedicated app. The reason it’s funny is because, out of all the things that I own, it’s the only app-driven one that still works. Sphero just merged it into their main app. Once that app stops getting updated, this toy will cease to work despite everything about it being functional. ☹️

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22 points

This is why i am for mandatory open sourcing of abandonware. So much stuff just laying wasted that could be hacked.

But allowing you to diy your own toys might make you consume less and thats bad or something.

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7 points

As long as you can side load a functional apk to a supported Android device, it should work, no?

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12 points

Android eventually locks out apps designed for older APIs. I remember reading about a bunch of abandoned apps being dropped from the Play Store for that reason. Not sure if that’s just the Play Store though or if it is the Android OS itself. I haven’t ever kept a phone beyond the manufacturer providing security updates since I actually use my phone for secure things.

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4 points

Only if it works as a peer to peer, if the device depends on connecting to a company’s server (which all do since the whole point was to collect usage habits) then you’re shit out of luck whenever they decide you’re

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1 point

It depends on if it requires server side connection or not.

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4 points

Would something like BlueStacks let the app run?

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2 points

I’m not sure but that’s a potential solution. You’d have to find the older APK somewhere but I feel like it should work since it’s just a Bluetooth connection to the toy.

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3 points

That’s funny, I have the exact same toy. It was a Father’s day gift years ago. It’s now an expensive display piece, as the battery no longer seems to hold a charge. And, as best I can tell, the battery is well sealed inside, making replacement impossible. Yet another thing I hate about our disposable culture.

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4 points

I’m laughing my ass off thinking about all the steps required to get these working if you bought them new. downloading an app and pairing your shoes to wifi or some shit. ha

if the internet goes down can you still put on your shoes?! lmao!

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-5 points

what if you like the feature and are okay with just using it while you can?

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6 points

Depends on the price imo

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5 points

Its still stupid. No reason there is no embedded web interface. That is such an easy thing to do. Like routers have been doing for ages.

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-3 points

what if you don’t even know what that stuff is or how to use it even if it were available?

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57 points

hearing about shoes that need an app makes me want to stab myself in the testicle.

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41 points

Open source the app?

No. Never. That would be literally impossible.

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32 points

It’s not entirely surprising when a company chooses to stop paying for the upkeep and continued development of an app for a product it’s no longer making money on

How much fucking upkeep can an app require to operate a pair of shoes?

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19 points

Inevitably what happens after 5 years is that someone reports that the app doesn’t work well with a newer version of iOS or Android, and the person that led the engineering on it is gone, because much of your engineering org has turned over after 5 years.

Then a new person jumps into the old project, finds out that it’s had 1 active user last year, then they question why they have to spend a week bug fixing something for one end user.

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4 points

As a developer, this is the answer. I can’t wait for the day I can finally stop supporting old Amazon Kindle devices.

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19 points

You’re questioning the sanity of people who even develop shoes that need an app

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7 points

I’m not questioning sanity, I’m questioning why an app that does nothing but send commands over Bluetooth or whatever needs any maintenance whatsoever.

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0 points

Android isn’t stable is my guess

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25 points

TIL about self-lacing shoes… What a waste of fucking resources. Might as well add some flashing red lights at the back of the soles if you already have batteries in them.

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24 points

Lights in shoes that blink at each step were all the hype in my childhood

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3 points

Hey, my daughter wore shoes like that—- dang I’m old. :(

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7 points

My two year old has shoes like that today!

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13 points

Honestly if they got the cost down and figured out a better interaction mechanism than an app, I could see it being useful for older or disabled individuals.

For example, imagine someone is 55. They are still with it, and decently active for this age. However they have arthritis in their hands that makes tasks that require dexterity mildly uncomfortable. These kinds of shoes would be a pretty big boon for them in terms of staying active.

The issue is that they tried to make it some cool fashion accessory for Gen Z sneaker heads to buy.

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4 points

They have buttons on the shoes too. Still, having a battery for something like this is just wasteful and pointless. People with disabilities have already several unpowered alternatives that work perfectly fine and as mentioned, those things are clearly not designed for that purpose in mind anyway.

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3 points

Man, at 55 I will be still running ironman’s… Hopefully. And trails. Let’s keep arthritis for the 70’s, shall we?

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3 points

I know a few people in their 40’s with varying stages of arthritis. I’m hopeful for post 70’s as well, but it’s not looking too good.

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2 points

Dude never heard of slipons or Velcro

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You could also just, idk, by Velcro shoes or get lock laces.

Edit: Got downvoted but that’s literally what my mother with arthritis uses. Lock laces and a shoe horn. Lock laces are basically the low tech and reliable version of what these app shoes have.

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3 points

Just today? You need to carve out some time and watch back to the future trilogy my guy. You won’t regret it.

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1 point

I already know the movies from when I was a kid.

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1 point

Watch again. You’ll see it, and they hit way different as an adult.

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