126 points

A pineapple can have any subnet it wants. Also I have multiple subnets that start 172.16.xx.xx

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44 points

you must be leet haxor

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172.16.0.0/12 is a valid prefix for private networks. In fact, you get more hosts than 192.168.0.0/16, but less than 10.0.0.0/8.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses

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74 points

Yeah, it’s not that it’s not valid for private networks, it’s that 172.16.42.x is common for WiFi Pineapples

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9 points

Every “well ackqually” person in this thread is insufferable

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21 points

IDK, I find them quite sufferable and in fact I’m learning something from this thread.

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88 points

Saying 172.16.0.0/12 is usually for pentesting scummy thing is very misleading…

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It’s not that it’s on the 172.16.0.0/12 range. That’s totally normal and used for all kinds of stuff.

It’s that it’s in 172.16.42.0/24 which is the default dhcp settings for a wifi pineapple. It’s the /24 mask given on the .42 that’s a little suspicious because that’s not a common range for anything else.

Being assigned one of those specific 253 hosts with that subnet mask would definitely make me think twice.

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It’s the /24 mask given on the .42 that’s a little suspicious because that’s not a common range for anything else.

Well now I know. I operate a ton of /24 subnets in the 172.16.0.0/12 scope. Technically I could fit them in the 192.168.0.0/16 scope, but I have lots of students connecting SoHo wifi-routers to the subnets, and this way it’s pretty easy to tell, if someone put the WAN cable in a LAN port when people are getting 192.168.1.0/24 DHCP offers.

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but I have lots of students connecting SoHo wifi-routers to the subnets, and this way it’s pretty easy to tell, if someone put the WAN cable in a LAN port when people are getting 192.168.1.0/24 DHCP offers.

I use 172.31.254.0/23 on my WiFi router. I guess I’d confuse you. /23 to just separate it nicely into 2 /24 blocks.
172.31.254.0/24 range is for manual assignments and 172.31.255.0/24 range is given out by DHCP.
I do not need that many IPs, it’s just for convenience.

I chose this range because of my school as it uses 192.168.0.0/16 range.
To help mitigate my possible mistakes when connecting to school network, I set the DHCP lease time to just 5 minutes.

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could calyx vpn save you from a wifi pineapple?

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14 points

Isnt it also for docker?

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4 points

Yes

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12 points

Wtf is with the “…” Explain why pls.

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22 points

It’s just one of many private ranges. Saying it’s dangerous is like saying every websites using .xyz domain is dangerous(which makes little more sense than this, btw)

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It’s just one of many private ranges.

Sure, it’s one of many, but how often do you see that specific (42) block used? I honestly don’t think I ever have, outside of a pentest lab. The 172.16.42.0/24 (not just any 172.16 like you’re saying) block is the default for a WiFi Pineapple. Any other range is usually ok, but the 42 on a /24 granting WAN access specifically would make me (and most people who actually know what a WiFi Pineapple is) avoid that network.

Saying 172.16.0.0/12 is usually for pentesting scummy thing is very misleading…Saying it’s dangerous is like saying every websites using .xyz domain is dangerous(which makes little more sense than this, btw)

You clearly don’t know what a WiFi Pineapple is, because we’re zeroing in on the 42 and you liken it to the entire 172.16 block. And linking every .xyz domain to a specific block (42) that is used by default for a pentest device is even more misleading.

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There’s nothing at all suspicious about the 172.16.0.0/12 address block.

Correct. However the 172.16.42.0/24 block is the default for a WiFi Pineapple. Any other range is usually ok, but the 42 on a /24 specifically would make me (and most people who actually know what a WiFi Pineapple is) avoid that network.

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3 points

You mean op’s waifu was wrong?

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61 points

Please use a VPN anyway, as if hotel WiFi is secure lmao

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45 points

HTTPS solved much of the security issues of untrusted networks. As long as you’re not doing banking or whatever, you should be fine without a VPN.

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43 points

Why would banking be an issue? I get that its a target, but I really would expect a bank to take care of their TLS.

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19 points

Also i would expect banks to use some sort of 2FA where you have to manually confirm any transaction on your mobile device, or enter a code generated from there into your computer.

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6 points

No security measure is perfect. When doing security-sensitive things, it’s better to wait when you’re home on an uncompromised network.

But yes, the chances of something happening is very small, even when using an unknown network.

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19 points

It should be fine as long you don’t click through any SSL errors. And something like a bank should have HSTS enabled, meaning your browser will refuse to load the site if there’s an SSL error.

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5 points

They don’t let me choose a password longer than 6 characters. I don’t assume anything about my bank’s security.

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1 point

Personally I do a Tailscale tunnel to my home network, if nothing else but so that services don’t log a hotel IP

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52 points

Public WiFi is just PvP enabled

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13 points

[x] Client isolation on

This is now a safe zone

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