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Let’s just agree that these states are also the places where the hypocrisy is the strongest.

Just look at the facts: These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat (heart is just a muscle sack that acts as a pump, nothing else), but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.

You have to remind parents not to have drunken sex with their children, but you cannot let LGBTQ people have a book store or a unisex bathroom.

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Just look at the facts: These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat

Not even.

Women have been forced to carry dead fetuses, which will kill them from sepsis as it starts to decompose.

And the people who voted for it will deny it ever happening, until something similar happens to someone they know. Then they’ll cry on the street corners about how unfair it is.

Remember: Scientific studies have shown that many conservatives are cold hearted and stupid, by demonstrating a clear correlation between conservative thinking/behaviour and lower than average cognitive ability and empathy. And literally every single one of them think they are a super genius and they think most people secretly share their political views.

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btw isn’t conservatism supposed to be about “everything is perfect as it is right now, don’t make any changes”?

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It’s about maintaining the status quo. Keeping the rich rich and the poor poor because “hey it’s worked great so far!”

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They say that, but they are liars. Liberals who typically want to conserve the standing social and economic order are the real conservatives.

What the conservatives actually are is reactionaries.

For the record, I’m not saying that because I’m a liberal, which I’m not. I don’t want to conserve the social or economic orders.

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Alabama is full of gay sister touchers

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can you please not just be homophobic as like some epic own of the conservatives. Even if its supposed to be an ironic thing because conservatives would hate to be called gay, it just reads as normal homophobia.

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Because it is normal homophobia. Blaming homophobia and abuse on gays is just a rehash of the same old bigotry, no matter stated intentions.

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Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.

I’m strictly pro foetus killing, in case that makes it seem otherwise. Just think that’s a poor rhetorical device.

Boobs are just fat bags that milky milky. But they’ve got soul, baby.

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Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.

While this statement is true, what is also true is that the brain is the only organ we’re unable to fully understand, replace (as in through organ donation), and it’s what makes us sentient. This is why Row v. Wade had a specific fetal age up until which abortion is permitted. That age coincided with the age at which the brain is developed and the fetus becomes a child which could be delivered. Most of the red-state laws are restricting abortion after the heartbeat can be detected.

All I am saying is that it makes perfect sense, from the biological point of view, why the heart is one of the first major organs to develop: it’s main job is to deliver nutrient-rich blood to all other organs so that they can develop as well. But despite that, its not the heart that makes us human, it’s the brain.

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I was raised around those good old traditional values like “do what you’re told” and “a woman’s value is caring for a family.” Once I started thinking for myself and asking questions, I still struggled with all the “but they’re killing living babies!” idea. Then one day it occurred to me - we don’t determine death by when the heart stops, why would we decide it starts just because we hear a beat? Brain death determines death, wouldn’t an appropriate level of brain activity determine life? I let go of a lot of baggage that day.

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Yet plenty of people with brains and hearts are subhuman pieces of filth

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Thats not goodness, that’s narcissism!

-The guy from Prageru

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but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.

link to the story?

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Oh man, where have you been and which instance do you want to start with?

This one was in the headlines for a while, let’s start here: https://www.biography.com/crime/trayvon-martin

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Go ahead an reply to the kind folks who took their time to give you what you asked for.

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I’d give you an award, but we don’t do those here … uhhh … here’s some Lemmy Nickel

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I wasn’t referring to a particular story, just the “stand your ground” laws.

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Precisely how many people have been full on ready to drunkenly bang their daughter, and were persuaded not to by a billboard?

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They were persuaded to rape their date instead.

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I like how there’s an implication with a roadside billboard that they’re driving home drunk as well.

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Nah, there’s no way a state with drive-thru daiquiri shops has anybody driving drunk.

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Wait drive through bars are a thing?? Who in the absolute fuck thought that was a good idea.

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Hate to be that guy, but I think the sign is actually meant for the daughter, not the father. The rhetoric isn’t “hey, maybe don’t have sex with your kid?” it’s “yo girlie, those things your father did to you were totally not okay, even though he was drunk/apologized afterwards/whatever.”

I get that that still sounds painfully obvious, but trust me to people for whom “abuse” is their “normal,” messages like this handing out really obvious messages are still useful

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That makes more sense, it’s still extremely depressing this has to be a thing 😮‍💨

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It probably helped prevent a single rape, but that was because they live directly in front of the sign and saw it illuminated by lightning a day they were drunk.

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Coincidentally, the exact same number of people who have been convinced to stop gambling by a giant casino billboard ad with a tiny 800 number at the bottom.

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Back when this was posted on Reddit someone who worked in CPS chimed in. The short of it was: Yes , men raping their under age daughters is frighteningly common in some states and a common form of victimization of the girls that CPS handles.

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I guess my question is, why would a billboard do anything to dissuade them from it?

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Where are we considering “the Midwest” here? I ask because I grew up in northern Illinois, which is a much different Midwest from Kansas or Missouri.

EDIT: I originally typed Kentucky when my brain wanted to type Kansas

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Born and raised Michigander checking in. There’s a LOT of cultural variation in the Midwest that people gloss over. You can find extremely liberal population centers all around the region. Chicago, Detroit, Ann Arbor, Madison, Lansing, Milwaukee, etc

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Minnesotan here. No incest signs. Lots of drunk driving signs. And, the occasional meth signs down in the SW of the state.

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That’s just urban vs. rural.

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Kentucky and East of the Mississippi usually isn’t considered Midwest anyway

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nebraska here and i’ve never seen an incest awareness sign. LOADS of pro life bullshit tho

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Same in Oregon. Never seen a “don’t rape your children” bilboard or “don’t shake a baby” bilboard. I do however see a lot of bilboards telling me how a 14 day conceived baby (fetus) has eyes, a beating heart, nails, and maybe a job with current labor laws being pushed. It’s wild how you can outright lie about that shit on a bilboard.

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I technically live in southern Illinois near St Louis and I’ve not seen incest sounds only intent ass anti abortion signs. None of which mention when a fetus becomes self aware.

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About 30% of rape cases against children occur in the close family, so probably yes.(Numbers are from Germany).

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Growing up in Wisconsin, drunk driving was a serious issue. Especially on New Years and the Fourth of July. The joke was that every little town throughout Wisconsin always had a church and a bar. There were so many alcoholics that would spend every day at those bars. It’s a tradition that probably goes back to the idea of public houses and having bars be a central location where your community gathers. Many people take the drinking part of that too far though and so the anti-drunk driving PSAs were necessary.

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This isn’t actually a drunk driving poster though. This is a drunk fucking your daughter PSA.

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Yes and also, I doubt the effectiveness of snapping their mind out of this

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I sorta need a google maps link showing it. Its just crazy pants.

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Every time I see this sign I feel disgusted

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