This really does not sound healthy. The game is released, for a certain amount of money. If people don’t like what they get for their money, they simply should not buy it.

But by now gamers have been so trained to expect to endless content treadmills and all their ilk like mtx and battle passes that publishers/developers get egged on if they don’t work on their game 24/7 and forever.

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The game is released, for a certain amount of money. If people don’t like what they get for their money, they simply should not buy it.

Except you don’t find out the devs/publishers released a broken game until after you buy it. Which is like, way too common. You can direct your frustrations to the publishers who insist on pushing out broken games and fixing them later.

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Yeah although, within reasonable boundaries this is now on the side of the consumer:

  • Reviews exist and we can wait for them.
  • Even in cases where they intentionally tricked journalists and reviewers by giving them special copies, we got a 2h refund window on Steam and similar services on say GOG nowadays.

Can still be circumvented by shady publishers, sure, but it’s getting more difficult to trick customers slowly.

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How long should they be forced to walk on a treadmill for, then?

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Don’t take early access money if you don’t plan to be giving frequent updates. It’s the nature of the beast.

People don’t expect constant updates from pokemon because when you buy it, it’s “a complete game”. They may drop patches and add content but it’s not expected the way it is from a game supposedly in active development like an early access game is.

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Nah screw that… don’t buy early access games if you don’t think it’s worth it in it’s current state.

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Both are true though.

If you want to release your game in Early Access, you should expect to update the game and community frequently.

If you want to buy a game (early access or not), take a look if it’s what you want to play right now, never buy any game, software, service or device that is promising the functionality you want will be coming later. If it does come later, buy it then, never buy on promises.

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Naw screw that. Don’t label it early access if you don’t plan to update it from its current state at a rate that the majority of your fan base expects.

That said the dev in this article has provided 3 updates in 3 months. They’re totally fine by the expectations of all but the most unreasonable people.

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Or just don’t buy a game with expectations that don’t match reality and then get mad at other people.

Typical gamer brain rot

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Don’t buy an early access game if you expect a complete package.

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It’s not expecting a complete package at the time of purchase. It’s expecting one in due time with your support.

What you are describing is a game outside of early access.

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Why are those your expectations, then? Seems kind of illogical to look at a system with a history of not that, expect it, then be mad.

You can say it’s not right for it to happen, but to be expecting it just makes no sense at all. Again, I’ll reiterate, you can argue that the system is fucked and needs to change, but, again, expecting an outcome with evidence that it won’t happen, then get mad, is asinine

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Before you throw stones be advised that this team is like 5 people at most, the game just blew up and some gamers are giving it the Valheim treatment wanting faster and faster updates.

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Such a childish take expecting AAA speed from tiny homebrew dev teams imo. Obviously progress is going to come slower in most instances, they don’t have a tiny island nation’s worth of man power to throw. That and, I’m sorry, if my homebrew passion project blows up stupid big when I go for early access for seed money / water testing, I promise you I will be taking time off to celebrate the accomplishment.

This shit is a grind. Lots of dedication over a long period of time. Go on, hit that resort life for a minute, you earned it. Come back and finish up when you get some r&r. 🤙

Obviously still expecting progress down the line, but if I’m supporting early access I know what I’m getting into. Indie scene is where the love is, but it’s ma & pa shit. Plus there’s thousands of other ways to waste my time, I’ll check back in later if I’m bored with the game’s current build.

Waiting sucks, but chill. Save outrage for where it really matters, like genuinely shitty devs. Juuust my pocket change. 🙌

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Riiiight… it’s the users of the product that is forcing the producers to work under toxic conditions, and totally not their money-grubbing capitalist bosses.

Riiiight.

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