Microsoft has told all its employees in China that they will soon only be allowed to use iPhones for work purposes. The ban on Android devices is part of a security-related Microsoft initiative for providing a unified way of managing and verifying employee identities.

The mandate, set to come into effect in September 2024, was announced in an internal memo seen by Bloomberg News. It will require Microsoft’s China-based workers to verify their identities when logging in to work computers or phones. The change is part of Microsoft’s global Secure Future Initiative that is intended, among other things, to ensure that all staff use the Microsoft Authenticator password manager and Identity Pass app.

While Apple’s iOS store is available in China, Google Play isn’t. Local smartphone giants such as Huawei and Xiaomi operate their own platforms in the country, but Microsoft has chosen to block access from those companies’ devices to its corporate resources because they lack Google’s mobile services, reads the memo.

Any staff in the country using Android handsets, including those from Huawei or Xiaomi, will be provided with an iPhone 15, as a one-time purchase. The Redmond giant is designating collection points across China where employees can pick up their iPhones.

Microsoft is also introducing the iPhones-only rule in Hong Kong, despite the Google Play Store being available in the special administrative region of China.

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This is less of a “iPhones are more secure” thing and more “Google play is banned in China” thing.

Apple willingly extinguishes freedom of speech to protect app store profits:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/3/23901205/apple-app-store-government-license-china

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/19/tech/china-apple-whatspp-threads-removal-hnk-intl/index.html

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Just going to add to that

Apple removes Hong Kong protest app, Quartz news app following Chinese criticism https://www.techspot.com/news/82284-apple-removes-hong-kong-protest-app-quartz-news.html

Apple’s Compromises in China: 5 Takeaways https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-privacy-censorship.html

Apple limited a crucial AirDrop function in China just weeks before protests https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/apple-limited-a-crucial-airdrop-function-in-china-just-weeks-before-protests.html

Apple has stored the data of thousands of customers on Chinese servers and censored apps https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-data-china-censors-apps-nyt-2021-5?op=1

Apple made secret 5-year $275B deal with Chinese government https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/12/07/apple-made-secret-5-year-275b-deal-with-chinese-government

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It’s not like Microsoft can’t send APKs over-the-air. Whatever the reason, it’s not because of Google Play.

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Man, I’d hate to see an IT department you were in charge of.

I may be completely off the mark, but I’m pretty sure that Intune device management doesn’t allow you to push arbitrary APKs out to managed Android devices. There would still also be the issue of getting the device managed to start with.

Microsoft isn’t about to roll out their own version of the Play Store just to serve APKs to their Chinese employees.

They also are not going to try and manage rolling out updates to whatever cluster mess of different android devices those employees use, tracking update compliance, etc

Any other solution to this involves considerable extra work for their internal IT team(s). Easier to just force everyone needing access to corporate devices to use a single standard (and buy company phones for the few who raise a stink).

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I think that intune has the same control over Android as it does iOS. One a device is enrolled, it can be wiped and sandboxed apps can be approved or denied. I’m not sure about pushing apps to phones, I think the end user had to download it still. Regardless, is not about Microsoft and it’s control, it’s about China and their control, and Apple gets on their knees and opens wide.

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It’s not just Google play that’s blocked, the entirety of the Google Services Framework is blocked in China, including the security framework that is part of it.

MS would have to build their own bespoke Android security framework in addition. Which is a whole hell of a lot more than just “sending the APK over the air”

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Yes, device management systems can push apps directly to devices, but the devices have to be managed first. So I think it probably is about the lack of Google Play.

One of the hardest parts of managing devices is getting them enrolled in device management in the first place. Microsoft uses the Microsoft Authenticator app to authenticate users as part of the enrollment process, so they know which employee is using the device and how to configure it. They need a reliable app store to distribute that app, and they need to do it before the device is managed. So usually they rely on Google Play.

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Sounds like Google’s enterprise features have a dependency on Google Play (and presumably GSF) and Android phones in China can’t be turned into work phones as a result. Makes a lot of sense.

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Any staff in the country using Android handsets, including those from Huawei or Xiaomi, will be provided with an iPhone 15, as a one-time purchase

Fuck off. If you’re mandating what device I’m to use for work; you’re going to provide said device free of charge, or shut the fuck up when I use whatever I like.

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That’s my read of it, or am I misunderstanding something?

Microsoft will purchase for their Android using employees an iPhone 15. The reference to one-time being that employees are only entitled to one, in the event they were to lose or damage it?

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I could be wrong; but it came across to me as a “we’ll sell you one at a special discount”

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Fair enough; it’s a bit vaguely worded and could be interpreted multiple ways.

From my experience, big corporations have always either provided me with company-issued phones for official use, or offered an additional allowance if I’ve opted to use my own personal device.

Then again, given how absolutely absurd some of Microsoft’s recent decisions have been (eg. Recall) - you can’t really be certain.

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In China you don’t get to have that opinion.

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That’s not how it works in “communist” China.

Workers don’t have too many rights.

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Workers don’t have too many rights.

Maybe not stellar but still better than quite a few of the 135 countries surveyed by this NGO in 2022. Behind Brazil, Russia and South Africa but ahead of India. Better than the so-called “land of the free” also, so maybe the joke’s on them?

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That’s a lot of whataboutism you’re doing there.

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It’s a Google updates issue since they’re blocked. Apple isn’t but they comply with the Chinese government just as much as they do in the US as does Google. Remember Google is banned because it would not comply with China. How quickly the Americans forget.

Most likely the corporate spyware that Microsoft enables, requires very recent Google services and Apple services to operate. It’s pretty standard in the corporate spyware world. Usually just a few months out of date at most.

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The Redmond giant

One of my least favorite things in journalism. Idk if it is SEO or what but it’s so bizarre.

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It’s just a writer seeking to vary their language a bit. It’s a trick to keep themselves from repeating “Microsoft” quite so many times in a short span, as too much word repetition can cause readers to “tune out”.

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That’s fair enough, but “the X giant” in particular I see so often. It feels like an in-joke amongst journalists or something.

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It sucks so bad when people do this in Russian.

Same person monotonously being referred to as “young woman” (not that it has anything to do in the context, just to replace “she” or “<name>”), “<hobby>”, “<profession>”, “<place where they live>”, some other crap instead of refactoring and compressing the text a bit.

It works when there’s relevant information.

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Oh I could help them out with a few synonyms: The asshats with the Internet Explorer, the start menu advertising clowns, the BSOD guys, the USE ONLY MY WEBBROWSER bullies, …

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