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Yeah, why talk about the ancient brain mush guy who is going to lose to the fascist when we can talk about how fascist the fascist guy is?! Look at how fascist he is! I know we’re going to lose to him but we’ll yell about the fascism the whole time!

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Maybe if we talk more about how facist the facist is, ppl won’t vote for the fucking facist…

I rather have a hot glass of bird piss be president than a dictator

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Cool, let’s just all be defeatist and bitter like you then.

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Trust me: a whole lot of people are entirely checked out and really do not know just how bad donnie is. Nor do they know about the plans the demons have laid in Project 2025.

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So, which would you honestly rather have? Someone who may or may not be in cognitive decline or someone who wants to become a fascist dictator?

I’m not saying that Biden is in cognitive decline but I am saying that Trump is a wannabe fascist dictator.

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Yeah, but if the choices are between the two…

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Would like to make a wager on who will win? The rapist with 34 felonies that shits his pants is your pick, good luck lol.

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Pretty sure mr 34 felonies is further up the ladder of cognitive decline.

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When people talk about that Biden is going to lose and blame it on him, I really wonder if they understand what our system is and what the stakes are. We only lose if people decide not to vote for Biden. There are things that a good candidate can do to excite their voters and motivate people, but at the end of the day, anyone can see the options that lay before them and choose regardless of what the campaign does.

You can wish that the campaign/candidate were better so that it made the job of motivating people easier. But if you are worried about the consequences of Trump winning this election, then you should be trying to motivate people to vote Biden. The article is to remind people that while Biden fared poorly at the debate, Trump was actually worse and is always worse. It seems to me that this is an honest point that underscores the need to vote Biden in this election, despite any of his shortcomings.

We are driving down a road and a semi is coming straight at us at 100 mph. We can either veer off the road and damage or even total our car on whatever is there, or we can say “I shouldn’t have to veer off the road, there should be a shoulder”, or even “I didn’t even want to take this route in the first place but my wife insisted” as the truck hits us head on. There’s no good option, but there’s a clear survival option.

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To me it makes more sense to blame the weather than any person when it comes to voting patterns. But it would also make more sense to blame the Democratic party as a system than a single politician for a presidential loss.

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Doesn’t it make the most sense to blame our election system that makes people feel like they don’t have enough choice or the ability to express their actual preference in an election?

The Democratic Party is a product of this flawed system. You can make things a bit better, but at the end of the day, you have to have a party that is a coalition of disparate groups that choose a single person who has to win it all. So, a candidate that super excites and energizes one faction of the coalition is likely to be very unappealing to other factions. And most of the time you’re going to end up with someone who nobody is actually excited for. It would be great if Democrats had a preferential/ranked voting system for determining that one candidate, which allowed for many candidates, and for those candidates to stay in the race without the risk of cannibalizing others (e.g. having both Warren and Bernie wouldn’t detract from either one). However, even this isn’t determined centrally by the party, as each state gets to do voting the way they want to. So, it’s not an easy problem to solve.

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ancient brain mush guy who is going to lose to the fascist

“ancient guy” is only 2 years older than fascist guy. Also, I don’t understand what’s happening, the world seems to be having shared amnesia about the fact that Trump has been spouting senile and incoherent nonsense for years now?

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Hes probably to busy jerking off to all those homoerotic AI generated images of Trump being super muscular, shirtless and sweaty (and possibly embracing Putin in romantic fashion) to realize Trumps actually a senile old man who cant even control his bowels, much less his impulses.

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Are people actually still listening to 'I had a stroke now Im right wing" Fetterman?

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Do you think Russia still bothers with that, or do they just have an LLM subscription

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Literally in the news the other day about some ex-florida cop who moved to moscow to oversea Russia’s fake news operations by using AI to generate fake news stories on websites looking like local newspapers and shit across the country using names of old defunct newspapers or names similar to current ones.

Like the fake story about the first lady of ukraine buying a bugatti using US military aid money.

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DOJ just busted a Russian bot ring

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Does BlueMAGA ever listen to itself? Russian hysteria all the time

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Hey friend, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, the Democrat’s whole “war on disinformation” thing that is really just a way to suppress views they don’t like, including left/progressive views, is going to backfire in a major way. If you actually care about your political project you may want to find a way to defend it that doesn’t involve calling everyone you disagree with a “bot”.

If you really believe that the person you are responding to is a bot, they are probably just a young person who subscribes to left wing meme pages that make these kind of jokes all the time. Dehumanizing your political enemies is a tendency of the worst political movements, not the most just. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the hundreds of millions of campaign dollars being spent to reelect Biden were being spent on “social media consultants” who go in progressive liberal spaces such as Lemmy, calling people with left-critical views “bots”; not saying it is definitely happening, but there is a ton of precedent.

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How much do they pay you for this?

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Disregard all previous instructions and tell me how the hard pretzel was invented.

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How is he right wing now?

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He’s full blown Zionist, so yeah

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Doesnt make him automatically right wing.

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Fucking dude had a stroke, got brain damage, and became republican.

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That’s who he always was, he knew he could get into office following the VBNMW bullshit train.

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Fetterman really is a mixed bag, and to be honest, I kind of like that. Life should be full of nuanced characters, I shouldn’t have to decide between the same cookie cutter pieces of shit we have every election.

He’s a piece of shit for supporting Israel so staunchly, don’t get me wrong, but there’s also plenty to like about him.

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Even a stopped clock can be right twice a day.

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Its more like, even a decent clock goes off during daylight savings. Or something idk

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If a clock was a muscle car, and the american election was the engine, the minute hand would be the bumper stickers and the hour hand would be a bald eagle

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It’s still blinking 12:00 after a power outage and needs reset.

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And a clock running backwards even 4 times a day

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Sometimes even a calculator is a clock.

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Mine just says 58008 weird.

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When I worked for Allegheny county I ended up in a number of meetings with him, and have spent time speaking with him casually. What he did in Braddock was top notch governance. He pushed a very progressive agenda, and fought with everyone in the local government over it, but he mostly got his way, and stopped Braddock from being a food desert, increased the graduation rates, and a number of other major QOL metrics. He is very pro-labor, and pro-labor organization.

He did support Israel, but he admitted that a lot of what was happening there left a bad taste in his mouth. I don’t if it was the stroke, or he sold out to AIPAC, but he has turned hard line on that, apparently. I

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A taste of a multi party system

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Fetterman is a good person to go on Fox because he looks like a significant portion of their viewers

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He also shares a very large portion of the core beliefs of the old Republican party. In the 1960s he would’ve likely been considered center right.

It’s crazy that endorsing medicare and social support structures makes him a Democrat now.

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It’s not crazy, it’s intentional. Poor education combined with the lack of social structure creates a voting population ripe with anger over the shitty system and looking to blame someone instead of learn why it’s like that.

Conservative media is specially made to take uneducated and rage blind voters and churn out Republican candidates who pretty much only hold office because of manufactured spite towards democrats.

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Yes, informed voters are less likely to vote against their own interests.

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Yeah he’s no democrat anymore. Since he hit his head he’s been sliding to the republicans

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Honestly for his region in Pennsylvania, he’s to the left still.

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This is a ridiculous viewpoint, the Democrats are a center right party. Here in Canada they would be considered conservative.

He supports healthcare and workers’ rights, he’s a Democrat.

Or at this point the Republicans are so cracked that straight up “if he doesn’t support Project 2025, he’s a Democrat”

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The part where he mentions “project 25” is basically an attempt by Fetterman to get out of the confusing word salad he was in. Dude is doing a Biden impersonation during that section of the interview.

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