79 points

Honestly yeah. There’s been some controversies in the past, but for someone who’s looking for a zero-effort way to browse privately and support the privacy scene (DDG donates a lot of money) it’s a great choice. Wouldn’t recommend their browser/extensions though

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24 points

Definitely would agree with this. The best of a bad bunch. I use it for nearly all my search.

Did see some sketchy stuff with the android app/browser so probably would avoid… and besides, I’m in a decades long relationship with firefox <3.

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8 points

Do you use Firefox on mobile as well? I use the DDG browser and don’t whether I should switch. Haven’t heard what exactly is wrong with it, yet.

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19 points

I use Firefox almost exclusively on android and have nothing but glowing praise for it, it’s a solid experience

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Firefox for Android is great, and after some initial teething problems, it’s been solid for a long time.

I remember seeing on reddit a story about a guy who created something and I think suggested DDG stole some of his work and packaged it up as their own. I cannot find it anymore, but remember seeing it at the time and it seemed convincing (even though I was using DDG search and was a fan of their work). I still use them, but not for everything and I remain skeptical. FF is open source, and has been pretty trustworthy for a long time imho.

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2 points

Well it’s chrome

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2 points

+1 for Firefox on android.

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Just a note, the last time I used DDG browser on android while on VPN, the browser had some IP address leak. Not sure whether they fixed it.

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Exactly, there’s just no reason to use anything other than firefox on desktop

On mobile IN MY EXPERIENCE Firefox has always been unbearably slow. I’ve tried everything: getting it from play store, F-Droid and github, using the beta and nightly version, tried it with and without extensions: it sometimes took 10+ seconds to load some pages, I don’t know why. It’s been like this on other smartphone models too.

That’s why I use brave from mobile, it’s blazing fast and it has a lot of nice features, starting from the amazing bottom bar to their solid integrated adblocker and dark mode.

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7 points

I’m OOTL on DDG donations? What kinds of projects/people do they donate to, and how does that benefit pirates?

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I’m sorry for the confusion, with “privacy scene” I meant orgs that fight for privacy/freedom on the internet, like Tor, EFF, Fight for the future and more. You can see who they donated to from their blog https://spreadprivacy.com/2022-duckduckgo-charitable-donations/

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6 points

Compared to Chrome their browser is probably better for privacy and also zero-effort, if you can get past the lack of features. I think using it as a private/incognito window is pretty feasible, but yeah, it’s hard to recommend as a default browser

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3 points

Why not use Firefox for a privacy browser?

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2 points

I use it as my default phone browser. I like it just because it doesn’t have any history at all unless you whitelist a site (they call it fireproofing). Not that I don’t want anyone to see what I’ve looked at on the internet, but because I don’t care what I’ve already seen.

The other browsers, and especially searches, all pop up your most recent searches. They keep a history of it. Even fucking wikipedia does it. It’s annoying. DDG is just simply there, and that’s a great experience for me when I browse.

All the privacy stuff went out the window years ago. I’m not concerned with all that.

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Agree

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Personally, I found people to be overreacting and DuckDuckGo‘s actions reasonable and transparent. Here’s the story:

https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts/

I’ve used Startpage until they got bought by an ad company. Haven’t looked into it since then:

https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company

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Their privacy policy and data flow have been the same since the buyout, they were transparent about any implications and the mitigations put in place to protect users, so I’m alright with it. The biggest problem I have with them is sometimes getting rate-limited because of a VPN or Tor, but that’s it. Alternatives like DDG and Brave Search are usually bad for results in my native language, so I’ve been using Startpage for a couple years now and it’s nice

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For me Brave search has pretty good results. Not as Google, of course, but enough. Definetly better than DDG.

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Its not about how good. How much privacy. Brave search is worse then DDG in all ways and form. Bad Search Results, Weird to get and read Privacy Policy???, Brave had at sometime a crypto miner in it.

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4 points

I think they mostly handled it well, and ultimately the situation was resolved, but I still think they should have been a lot more up front about what they were doing.

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49 points

NO.

  1. it is US-based
  2. the CEO is the former founder of the “Names Database”

for the love of god, use anything but DDG. Qwant is EU-based and has decent results, SearX is another one which lets you choose between instances (or host your own).

please stop taking US “privacy” services seriously. i was hoping people would know better on here, compared to reddit

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2 points

Kagi for the win!

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Does not really matter. US can ask another countrys authorities for information. Just look at what happend with protonmail

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It is US based LOL!!!

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Does not really matter. US can ask another countrys authorities for information. Just look at what happend with protonmail

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27 points

For those who still don’t know and find DDG’s name too long to type out than google, you can just input duck.com and it will redirect you to DDG!

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You can also use ddg.gg which is even shorter!

And you don’t even need to go the website homepage, just type something like ddg.gg/search promt and it’ll give you results straight away.

This is great even if you use a different search engine because you can use !bangs without needing to go through another webpage.

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9 points

Been using DDG for many years and never new this!

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8 points

It’s my main search in my browser, so I don’t even type it. Would strongly recommend.

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23 points

Yeah but I find their search results aren’t as good an non-private options like Google. So I’ve always preferred search private engines that provide Google results. Startpage is a great one but if you want one that is open source LibreX is excellent and is better than other FOSS search engines like SearX and Whoogle IMO.

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Google’s search monopoly is hurting the Internet generally speaking by stifling innovation and pushing normal users into it’s ecosystem by paying companies like Apple billions to make it the default search.

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-google-pays-apple-billions-of-dollars/

My grandmother has been using Google everyday for a decade on her iPhone and didn’t even know until I changed the default settings. We need competitors in this space to make the internet a better place and using any search engine that relies completely on Google’s SEO is perpetuating their market dominance. Hopefully, Google pulls a Reddit like move and makes it ridiculously expensive to access their search services, the way they’re currently experimenting with YT ad blocking.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/92181/youtube-to-disable-video-playback-for-accounts-caught-too-many-times-with-ad-blockers/index.html

Then competitors will have to move away from Google’s evil empire making life better for everyone.

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You know I’ve been using both DDG and google for years, google on my work computer and DDG at home. I too have found google is a little better, but the past few weeks at work I’ve have occasionally found the google results insufficient, so I’ve tried DDG on a whim and it’s actually given me better results!

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