131 points

Yeah, genius thought that creating CyberTruk and turn full Nazi will expand his consumer base.

Sucks for real founders of Tesla, but hey, at least you helped bootstrapping switch to EVs.

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68 points

seriously, I think if Elon could just sit back and shut the fuck up about everything since the beginning, he could have went down in history as one of the greatest man alive.

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41 points

Apartheid Space Karen just had to go and call the Thai cave diver a pedo because his tech bro submarine idea was dumb as fuck, and his fragile ego couldn’t handle the L.

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24 points

I wondered if that was the trigger or just a symptom. I suspect, given his upbringing and previous reputation from other startups, it was just a symptom.

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12 points

Oh, billionaires and their submarines. I wish Elon wanted to tour the Titanic.

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turn full Nazi

He’s a Nazi? Like, literally? What’s the latest?

Edit: we’re discussing the down votes for this comment below. I’m baffled, because I’m merely asking for info. Please, if you want to down vote, reconsider, and consider replying to me why instead. 🙂 I don’t care about the votes, I’m just curious why a simple request could be so unpopular. Thank you.

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48 points

He lets Nazis use his platform and calls it “freedom of speech”, although this exact freedom is limited by the wellbeing of others. And promoting Nazis is harmful to not only minorities, but the society in my opinion, as they strive to split the society with populist arguments.

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Calling someone a Nazi is quite a serious accusation, and it’s going to need a lot better justification than that. I post gay porn on Twitter, and Elon lets me do that. Does that mean he’s gay too?

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I disagree. It’s better to let naziz talk so their opinions can be argued against. Nothing is solved by censorship. The opinions are still there, you just don’t see them.

I don’t know why people today are so sensitive? Why is it hard to see someone say something you don’t agree with?

If you want to actually solve the problem that those people hate strangers for no real reason, you need to talk to them.

Elon isn’t promoting naziz, he is just not censoring them. Hopefully you see the difference.

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Thus website doesn’t like any opinion that is anyway different to theirs. They want the echo chamber.

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2 points

I am wondering why there is such a down vote count on this. I thought there was a new development that he’s actually a Nazi supporter, rather than just letting them roam free on his platform.

It’s not even an opinion. I’m literally curious to know more facts lol.

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-41 points

Nope. Lefties like to call any outspoken conservative a “Nazi” to discredit them. It’s like when conservatives call lefties “communist.” It’s juvenile IMO, but I guess it works.

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32 points

If you let Nazis in your house and kick out people saying they don’t want to hang around Nazis, what does that make you?

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11 points

How do you know they are left?

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5 points

Really? Because the right doesn’t throw the Nazi card around like there’s no tomorrow at the left with their disingenuous “national socialism bullshit”. Only one party/political leaning is actually courting the neo-nazi vote.

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-3 points

Leftists are communist though. Liberals are the progressives that prefer capitalism

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It certainly seems that way. I think social media has made people turn on eachother. Everything is dumbed down. Sides are calling eachother names. Its all so useless.

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Good? Even if Tesla wasn’t shit it’s probably for the best if one company doesn’t make up the majority of an industry.

And normally this would be good for Tesla as it’d indicate the industry is growing a lot. So even if they aren’t most of it their total sales would probably increase.

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21 points

Surprisingly their sales have actually gone down YoY, and considering the hugely growing EV market, that is hard to do.

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4 points

Idk, the EV market has stagnated quite a bit, which is why used EVs are getting a lot cheaper. They just don’t have the range for broad market appeal, so those who want them largely have them.

It’s still growing, but a lot of EVs are sitting on the lots longer instead of being a waitlist. Essentially, supply has caught up with demand.

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5 points

I wouldn’t say supply has caught up with demand, there’s a lot of other factors that contribute to people WANTING an EV, but being aware that it’s not feasible yet for them due to things like average price, charging access issues, etc.

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49 points

Tesla will probably be a case study one day in how to get the lead in a market that is hard to break into and somehow squander it.

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8 points

the problem is tesla basically got in early and did literally nothing to actually innovate and improve

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4 points

They did that prior to Musk getting involved.

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7 points

Are we all pretending that the investment in Tesla was organic and for the company?

You guys have seen the man with creepy world leaders. Multiple countries investing in and pumping Tesla stock to get favors from Elon is PRETTY BLATANTLY what’s going on.

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44 points

i saw a Hyundai Ioniq6 this morning was like, damn! They have great performance, great reviews, and great warranties. they’re nice on the inside, too.

can’t remember ever thinking that about a Tesla

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18 points

I saw a KIA the other day that I was surprised looked as slick as it did. Decided to look into it and saw a lot of positive reviews from owners. Was refreshing to see, but definitely surprising. The market is definitely changing and evolving. Tesla isn’t the only game in town.

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exactly. next to every other car company, Tesla looks like it’s been standing still for years.

and that’s not even considering the toxic association Musk brings…

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13 points

A couple of years ago KIA hired new designers and changed their logo, they basically turned from being the butt of a joke to one of the hottest car makers around.

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8 points

I weirdly love their logo.

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5 points

Kia poached their designers from Audi of all places.

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2 points

I have a friend who got a brand new EV6 and LOVES IT. He’s the absolute last person I’d expect to love Kias, his previous car was a Lexus SUV. And he loves everything about his EV6 and would buy it again ig. So yeah, the company does seem to be different these days

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6 points

I have a 2017 ioniq hybrid and I’ve been happy with it.

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I was referring to a 2024 Ioniq6. I saw this and was obsessed all day. This car was hot. I especially liked its backside.

It’s an automotive design trend I’ve seen for 2 decades in the Mercedes CLS and CLA series, and even as far back as the original Infiniti i35 back in the mid-90s. The whole body of the car is just one big arc. I love it. It”s so elegant and sporty.

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6 points

Not a fan of the Ioniq6 design personally, but I know where you’re coming from; I’m obsessed with the Abarth 500e Scorpionissima in acid green! 🤤

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3 points

It reminds me of old Porsches. It just looks sporty as hell!

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1 point

The new Toyota Prius has a Lambo tint as well. EV’s are ditching the weird blocky designs and make it look good

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42 points

This is not surprising. When Tesla started out they had not much competition. Now that all the other carmakers have entered the market it is much harder to maintain their lead. Tesla losing market share was pretty much to be expected and Musk alienating their customers and the laughable Cybertruck certainly did not help.

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When Tesla started out they had not much competition.

Half the joke of the company was how they stepped in and bought a bunch of the EV-1’s patents and plant infrastructure for a song, then spun around and sold EV production credits to the Big 3 auto companies so they could greenwash the SUV industry. Had GE simply kept turning out EV-1s, they’d have cleaned up during the late Bush Era gas price explosion. Instead, Musk got top dollar to churn out heavily subsidized sports cars while racking in government subsidies and deposits on cars that wouldn’t be built for half a decade.

Musk alienating their customers and the laughable Cybertruck certainly did not help.

Americans have a downright neurotic fixation on big trucks. I don’t think his Cybertruck idea was necessarily all that bad on its face. But he’s so fucking slow, he’s such a shitty product manager, and he was so heavily derailed by the promise of Robotaxis that Ford and Rivian beat him to EV Truck delivery.

Now his brand new flagship vehicle is barely more than a punchline.

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