The poll, which was conducted from July 7 to July 9, found that 73 percent of Democratic voters “somewhat” or “strongly” approve of Harris as Biden’s replacement. In an earlier iteration of the same survey, conducted from July 3 to July 6, a 66 percent majority of Democrats approved of Harris as a replacement.

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Jesus christ. Can we just stop? Biden’s the nominee. Doesn’t matter who else you could get to run because they’d get crushed. Yes, it’s a terrible position the DNC has put us all in, but that’s just the way it is now.

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That would be my opinion too, if I were a Trump voter.

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The problem is, you have one side whos worried their candidate might be too old and another who doesn’t even care if their candidate raped a child and tried to overthrow their government.

However, for reasons no one can quite explain, only one of them is being called to drop out of the race.

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However, for reasons no one can quite explain, only one of them is being called to drop out of the race.

No one can explain? He got on a debate stage in front of the entire world and looked like a confused, doddering, and feeble old man. Any party would call for their candidate to step down after that.

As for why Trump doesn’t get the same treatment, it’s because the Republicans are no longer a political party, but have become a cult of MAGA. Hell they have people holding signs that say real men wear diapers.

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doesn’t even care if their candidate raped a child and tried to overthrow their government

It’s right there. It’s because his voters don’t care. Calls to drop out from a faction Trump calls ‘the enemy of the people’, is a huge waste of time.

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Biden should make this case, when he’s not napping 💤

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We want Joe!

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We want Joe… to fuck off into the sunset.

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Polls also say she would do no better than Joe.

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So it won’t matter if she replaces him, right? I mean, if it doesn’t matter who the candidate is with polling, then changing the candidate shouldn’t matter, right? Like, why are we keeping Biden if it doesn’t matter who the candidate is? Theoretically, if it doesn’t make a difference who the nominee is, and it won’t change anything, then changing the nominee shouldn’t be a problem, right?

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We aren’t “keeping” Biden, the primary process was when other people could run against him and we got to pick. Now that he has secured the nomination, only one person on Earth decides if Biden continues to run or not–Biden himself.

Unless he gets impeached and removed from office or something, which is not very likely.

Hell, he even gets immunity for all sorts of possible crimes now, thanks to the Supreme Court.

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Democratic donors warn of campaign funds ‘drying up’ as Joe Biden holds on

Donors decide.

Some wealthy backers are increasingly unwilling to pour cash into ‘losing’ effort

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It more has to with polls. If the electorate is more or less set, then the numbers game turns into a get out the vote campaign. There is no reason to think that the candidate will have an affect on that, unless of course if you’ve already voted for them once

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If polling is static for all potential candidates, then what harm can come from changing them? Why fight so hard for a candidate that you know is going to lose, unless you want that candidate to lose? 🤨

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Yes but she’s capable of actually campaigning. Expectations have been clear since the debate. If he got right out there and started campaigning immediately, he’d probably be doing fine. It’s becoming clear however that he can’t.

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Cool. So the best alternative is still expected to lose? Maybe it’s time to stop calling for a replacement.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

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But the current polling says Biden will lose to Trump, and he’s been shedding independents.

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What’s switching to another low polling candidate going to do? I’m just suggesting they nominate someone that poll tests higher before repeatedly calling for him to step down.

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How many people know much about Whitmer or Newsom? I’ve had people on political subreddits tell me that Newsom is too liberal, when he’s always run as a pro-business, conservative Democrat.

Polling is useless until they’re on a big stage and people know them. Biden is well known and has been trending down since April. Have Newsom as the nominee and come out swinging at Trump, now the he’s too old argument plays well. I just don’t know who is voting for Biden but not Newsom.

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That’s before even a day of campaigning with her at the top of the ticket, I don’t think those numbers are as bad as you think. Trump has been campaigning nonstop for nearly a decade. Unfortunately Harris is not exactly energizing, but I bet she can pick up 2-3 points just by being normal for 4 months.

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That’s true. Although it’s just as possible she’ll say the wrong thing and lose points. Some voters on the left are quick to abandon a candidate.

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That’s not quite right. It isn’t that voters on the left are quick to abandon. They are fastest at disagreeing. Which, if not checked, will lead towards a desire to abandon.

The one great weakness of the left is our inability to agree to disagree. We all want our right to be the right and will shoot ourselves in the foot to prove it.

Post - Welcome: Irony.

If we all swallowed our disdain and moved forward together, we’d easily outstrip any efforts from the Right to win anything.

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If they try to change Biden at this point, republican states will invalidate the Democrats for failing to have their nominee by the deadline.

It doesn’t matter if it would be tossed out on legal challenge previously, the SCOTUS will invent a reason to uphold it. Trump wins.

Biden is the candidate. Let him run. Make him win. He can step down and hand it off to Harris later if he needs to. But the process is too far along now to go with another.

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