most people i know use google by searching whatever question they have and including the word “reddit” at the end to find reddit threads since it currently has the most useful information.

As Lemmy gets more and more filled with useful threads and reviews it would be great if we can collectively improve Lemmy’s SEO so just including the word lemmy in a search will show lemmy threads related to the search.

The obscure tlds used in lemmy servers don’t help and lemmy.com currently redirects to lemm.ee. Is there a way we can improve the SEO of all instances or have lemmy.com be a aggregator of threads from many Lemmy servers?

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I think once there is enough info on lemmy it’ll just get to the point where the searches will bring up the information you need.

I feel like if I’m searching on Google I want it to take me to the most relevant source of information even if that still is reddit. It won’t always be. But it is still right now.

Nothing wrong with competition, it’ll give better search results.

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Unpopular opinion, but I don’t want that. I don’t want to start adding SEO stuff. If we have good content Google can figure out how to index it better themselves.

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When I read the posy what I heard was: how do we ensure high quality content? If we have that, SE won’t need the O.

And I’m down for high quality.

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Just curious, why not? Everything on the Fediverse is already public, by nature of federation. I think making the information shared here more easily discoverable is always a good thing.

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Not OP but I think the point is not to force it but just let it happen organically.

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SEO really doesn’t work organically, though. That’s why there’s a whole industry devoted to it.

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there’s a lot of “exclusivity” behaviour on this community that I’ve noticed (and a loooot of us vs the mentality too, in regards to twitter/reddit/bluesky/mastodon)

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Yeah, I think a lot of the new Reddit refugees are failing to realize that Lemmy and the Fediverse existed before the recent migration and expect everything to just work the way they want, instead of how it’s been working just fine without them for years. The Fediverse doesn’t “belong” to them, and open connections are what this platform is built on.

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It’ll happen if Lemmy gets big enough. I only worry about search engines getting tangled in the natural duplication of Lemmy posts.

Like, if a web crawler sees a Beehaw post, and then seees Lemmy.ml’s mirrored page of that same post, could it just show up as two different results? Could it work against the SEO in that it gets marked as “duplicate” or “spam” content in some way?

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It might help it, as well. I believe in the Yandex source code leak they detail their algorithms SEO techniques. Might be a good lead

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Like, if a web crawler sees a Beehaw post, and then seees Lemmy.ml’s mirrored page of that same post, could it just show up as two different results? Could it work against the SEO in that it gets marked as “duplicate” or “spam” content in some way?

The ideal solution is that the page has a canonical tag, telling search engines what the main URL for the content is: https://ahrefs.com/blog/canonical-tags/. I don’t know if Lemmy already does this, nor do I know how well canonical tags work cross-domain as I’ve only ever used them for content on the same domain.

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The ideal solution is that the page has a canonical tag, telling search engines what the main URL for the content is: https://ahrefs.com/blog/canonical-tags/. I don’t know if Lemmy already does this […]

I checked and it does, this post’s canonical is:

<link data-inferno-helmet="true" rel="canonical" href="https://merv.news/post/26663">

Weirdly it uses OP’s instance, in this case merv.news. Shouldn’t it be the instance where it was posted?

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I would think it’s because users only interact with their own instance. They would need to post it to their instance first before it can be forwarded to the appropriate community’s instance.

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Canonical tags were added in 0.18.2.

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If/When Lemmy and other federated services grow to the point that’s an issue in major search engines, said search engines should be smart enough to group and/or suppress mirrored results.

You can see that sort of thing in Google now for major sites like Reddit and StackOverflow, though it’s more along the lines of “the same question in a different post”.

You can also, in the interim, just pick an instance and add, site:lemm.world or whatever instead of just “lemmy”.

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Before this is of value we need to get another 100 million users and exist for 20 years

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Why does it have to be just like your sister?

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Because we will never reach a billion users and exist for 200 years like yo momma.

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That’s that og Reddit spirit I crave

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Gosh

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I’ll be a bit scared doing that, with all the instances I’ve been thinking how easy it will be to have malware links. How is shi.t.justwo.rks or whatever less random than a malicious link?

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Search engines have their own “trustworthiness” metric that they keep track of for sites they index. That’s why you usually don’t find malware in the top results for most searches, unless you’re going down some already shady rabbit holes.

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