to be fair, they also talked about other musicals i didnt care about, but I wasn’t feeling it, lmao. i would have been happy with literally any other topic, but i fall asleep during this shit, cant help it

7 points

WHERE IS MY LENIN MUSICAL

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Lenin spoof of hamilton would be 100 times better than the original

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18 points

One of my NB customers was wearing a shirt with a Hamilton quote on it and I wanted to die.

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21 points

I sat through a friend’s baby shower while they blared the entire Hamilton soundtrack through a tinny Bluetooth speaker

I no longer fear hell, for I have lived through worse

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30 points

It’s funny because I have a deep appreciation for music, but I find so many musicals deeply and profoundly insipid

Hamilton most of all

Rap music for people who are scared of People of Color

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I don’t remember who said it, but the fact that the first big rap broadway show was about the whitest thing ever - a treasury department secretary guy - is absolutely expected

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18 points

I can’t relate to this album, he’s just talking about growing up poor like a poor person!

He’s an elder statesman! That’s just like me!

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35 points

first big rap broadway show

ummm excuse me it’s called hip-hopera

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a treasury department secretary guy

You gravely misspelled “hero”.

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19 points

As a bisexual and former theatre kid, it does feel like certain stuff like broadway and that particularly bombastic pop existing in gay communities is some sort of psy-op or gaslighting. I hate the stuff, honestly. Lotta great gay music out there and its rarely the stuff pushed by the machine.

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7 points

As a bisexual and former theater kid, the one musical I actually liked was about an alien hive mind taking over a small town and making everyone sing in a musical.

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14 points

Musicals are what happens when you place incredibly high demands(singing, dancing, acting, tons of extras) on performers to the point that it hurts their singing and acting. And then decide, its just a style of performance everybody! Like theyve turned the affect of bad performance into a stylistic choice and its sooooo fucking grating.

If your desired takeaway is anything other than, cool costumes! Impressive coreography! Fun performing! What a voice! You probably wont like musicals.

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7 points

I like Encanto as a musical because of the anarcho-feminist themes. Most movies have the hero do productive labour like fighting bad guys, disarming bombs, or performing art. Mirabel is a hero frustrated she can’t do productive labour on the same level as her family, but she spends the entire movie fixing problems through caring labour and learns to value her abilities for that, which exposes an important dimension of labour theory to the casual watcher. Also the Encanto is an anarchist commune.

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15 points

I will be real, I will snooze through musicals, operas, anything that is haute culture, not out of principle but I am sitting in a comfy chair and somewhat well composed vibrations are hitting me, it is dark-ish if I turn my head. Sleepy time

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Hamilton was not high culture. It’s like the definition of middlebrow

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6 points

never said I slept through it

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20 points

This was me every time we went on a field trip to hear the local city orchestra play

The teachers would usually be upset, BUT THEY WERE THE ONES WHO WOULD PLAY CLASSICAL MUSIC DURING NAP TIME IN KINDERGARTEN, HOW WAS I NOT SUPPOSED TO ASSOCIATE CLASSICAL MUSIC WITH SLEEPING?

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12 points

I still do it, I can’t help it. I only know plays by reading the books they are written in.

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61 points

i got literally yelled at by some ex friends who were white for saying having rapping slave owners was offensive.

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29 points

I have to admit that I only knew that Hamilton was a slave owner and that he is played by a black guy. I didn’t even know he raps.

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hamilton is not played by a black guy! i was referring to Thomas Jefferson played by the (honestly very talented ) davved diggs. theres a scene where he comes in and the slaves are cleaning the floors then they start dancing with him, https://youtu.be/hruG4iDSQAI?si=a4WUZf7zXwQFRq_7. and he even says “be a lamb sally”, sally his 14 year old victim. hamilton also raps, hamilton is played by a puerto rican man.

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32 points

also its all ok because Hamilton and jefferson have a rap battle where Hamilton totally calls him out/s

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22 points

oops, I really do know jack shit about that musical

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7 points

Not trying to sway your opinion, you’re entitled to it. From a certain perspective though, having black folks play slave owning founding fathers is sweet justice in the sense that true racists would turn over in their graves to know that a black man was playing them.

There also are not an abundance of opportunities for black opera singers. Tossing aside the race of the characters is a statement. Listen to Leslie Odom Jr, Aaron Burr’s actor, thank Lin-Manuel Miranda deeply for creating opportunities and providing “a new vision of what’s possible” as he accepts his Tony for best actor. That old white slave owners indirectly led to the success of some crazily talented black folks in my time is something I can dig. You’re free to disagree.

Anyway, give it a watch.

https://youtu.be/WbkjsnMEiqE?si=w-6HMrtQq_8RWdja

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he even says “be a lamb sally”

Jesus fucking christ.

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musicals fuckin suck. ive been to so many shows where im the youngest person there, and im not super young lol. lotta gray hairs like this trash.

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There’s a lot of young people that love musicals but old people are the only ones who can consistently afford tickets.

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10 points

to be fair, I can see the appeal of having people sing very well and tell a story, or at least this is what I tell myself so people won’t see me as a gloomy, anti-cultural killjoy

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so people won’t see me as a gloomy, anti-cultural killjoy

it’s ok to be a killjoy about shit liberals love. Plus this shit isn’t culture, it’s just rich white people dressing up to show off for their fellow whites.

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7 points

part of me agrees with you there, but idk, I feel I should just drop that crowd and look for people worth taking to, just sucks that many queer things are so tame and boring, at least clubs let me dance my brains out

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2 points

The only good musicals are pantomimes because they know it’s shit and have fun with that.

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2 points

it woukd rule to be a pantomime for some time

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