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Man, any narrative that avoids talking about gun control

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He talks about there being blood if loses. Relaxed gun regulations and appointed Judges that will keep it that way. When you act like a strong man expect stupid shit.

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Live by the sword, die by the sword, so to speak

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I think this article that lists five different times the Secret Service had major security lapses since 2012 is also worth reading

My theory is that Trump was getting the best security the Secret Service can give, and they’re just really bad at their jobs for some reason

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Is it just that it’s a really fucking hard job? How do you protect someone who wants to travel the country and stand in front of live audiences of thousands of people, without getting in the way of the personal experience they are trying to sell?

If you are as controversial as Trump, anyone can be an assassin and the secret service have to somehow separate crazy fan from crazy assassin, in a thousand different venues. The only real option is a bulletproof Popemobile.

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I mean, I definitely wouldn’t want to do their job (and Trump with his thing for rallies is probably extra tough), but I don’t think the drunk driving crashes and visiting sex workers while traveling overseas with the President helps

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Yeah, I’ll give you that one. I’m assuming there’s a super tough process to be selected for the secret service, like an astronaut selection process? But maybe I’m assuming wrong.

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Someone reported the shooter 3 minutes before the first shots were fired.
“Follow up on suspicious reports” doesn’t sound like it’s a very hard part of the job.

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“There’s a shooter in the stadium somewhere, find them in the next 3 minutes” actually sounds like a really hard job.

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It wasn’t clear from the Trump-visor guy that he actually reported anything, just yelled and pointed and assumed they’d pick up on it. What the security actually saw and heard is another question. Maybe if you see a suspected assassin coming for your godking, it’s important enough to actually leave your seat and talk to someone directly.

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Right? They were directly told and chose to ignore it.

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It’s a “hard job,” yet they were literally informed about the shooter crawling to location and ignored it. Seems like incompetence at minimum

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My guess is that most of his SS agents are chosen because they’re loyalists, not because of any particular skill.

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SS agents are chosen because they’re loyalists

This was also true in the 1930s, funny how history repeats.

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If they don’t want to be called SS, maybe they should stop protecting a Hitler wannabe

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I imagine it’s just incredibly difficult to take your job super seriously when any given thing only happens like once every 5-10 years, and probably not to you. I imagine most secret service people who are doing security spend 100% of their careers just standing around and then retire with nothing having happened.

At one point, US embassy security details had this problem, and what they settled on was rotating active-duty combat troops in straight from the field so they were super alert. After about 6 months they would start to relax, and they would rotate them out and have fresh people.

I won’t claim to know what the answer is for the SS but clearly there are some issues with the way they’re doing it.

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Pissing off the Secret Service might not be the best move considering they know where all the bodies, metaphorical and possibly literal, are buried.

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Maybe, but Republicans have to stay on the offensive somehow or we might have a chance to remember that time Trump joked about the assassination attempt on Pelosi

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