78 points

Still waiting for them to launch a mission to get rid of the caste system

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If the US can go to space while issuing drone strikes on civilians, if Russia can go to space while invading countries, I don’t see why India can’t go to space while still being backwards about the caste system. Also it’s not like the government endorses the caste system, unlike the aforementioned examples.

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Whataboutism bs. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

whataboutism /ˌwɒtəˈbaʊtɪz(ə)m/ noun the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.

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Yeah but I didn’t see anyone complaining when NASA Artemis was announced? Everyone rejoiced NASA’s return to space. So why the double standard towards India? Credit where credit is due don’t you think?

Also what’s the caste system has anything to do with the Indian government? How do you think the government has enforced it? What do you think the government should do instead? I am not Indian mind you, but I am sick of these holier than thou attitude of westerners.

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I hate the term whataboutism

It’s OK to point out hypocrisy. In fact, I think it should be forefront on everyone’s mind when your government is criticizing some other government for things they do themselves

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LOL. This is clearly how to tell

“I’m jealous of another country achieving something better than my country”

without actually telling

“I’m jealous of another country achieving something better than my country”

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I’ll be jealous of india once they get rid of all their billionares and feed the poor instead

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5 points

Well you can say that for literally any country 😂

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Lol, im sorry but there’s nothing to be jealous of India. Im happy they accomplished the landing in the moon, but they have a lot problems that they need to solve in their country.

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I don’t disagree that they have problems to solve. But the kind of negativity these comments point out of pure jealousy. Let’s just celebrate achievements in the field of science and tech whichever country it is. No country is perfect.

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keep waiting bitch

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How is that related to the space mission? Or are we trying to make this look like a Reddit comment section now? It’s an issue in India but that’s not relevant to their accomplishments in space exploration now is it?

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It is when so much of their population struggles in poverty 🙃

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Over 40 million Americans are living below the poverty line (12 million of those are children), that’s 12% of the population of the country. To compare and contrast India’s got 150 million people living below the poverty line with a population of 1.4 billion, that’s 10% of their population. Yet we spend $33 billion on our space program. For those playing at home India’s moon landing cost around $75 million.

To pull the poverty card on India for starting a space program that is lifting up their people’s national self worth is just about the most imperialist thing you could do.

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whatever or whoever they land on the sun will no longer be in any system, so maybe this is the first step?

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I mean if anything for sure it will be in a system, the solar system. Not in original form though…

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Even though I couldn’t find any connection between a space mission to sun and casteism, I could assure you friend the latter is much difficult to solve. That’s why countries still struggle with casteism or racism or sexism or some other evil-ism, but we shouldn’t let it hold us back from the technical and scientific advancements. In fact one could argue building a science oriented society is the way to eradicate these issues.

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Yeah, I love it when people act like America doesn’t have a fucking caste system. As though there weren’t millions of Americans who voted for a rich guy who planned to build a wall to keep the “illegals” out of the country. And there wasn’t a massive lobbyist effort by multi-billion dollar companies and oligarchs to kill unemployment benefits in order to push people back into shitty service jobs that pay peanuts.

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👀

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HHGTG covered this. They’ll simply put the lower classes on a space ark

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a nice juicy fuck you to the 150,000,000 people living on £2 a day

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At least they aren’t investing it in more nuclear weapons to point at Pakistan.

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There are corrupt politicians and businessmen who steal money from the poor and spend it on stupid shit that is definitely higher than ISRO’s budget and yet ISRO’s budget is the only thing that we need to shit about.

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It’s not like they could have taken this money and made any significant impact on the problem. Plus space programs have indirect long term benefits that are hard to calculate.

More scientists and high tech industries is a good thing for a country.

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There are too many poor people so it’s not worth bothering ?

You could feed and clothes tens of millions of people with India’s space budget - and educate them as rocket scientists if you wanted .

Space exploration is largely a folly, while people are hungry .

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Ok let’s say I’m poor. I have a job that pays very little. I could choose to work more hours to get more money OR I could choose to take night classes and get a degree in something.

In the second case, I’m giving up temporary income for more long term income. Just because I’m giving up income does not mean I’m making the wrong decision.

This is a similar thing in India. They are not wasting very much money on these space projects. But if it could kick start a space industry, it’ll more than pay for itself in the long term. Space is only going to get increasingly important and if India is left behind they will lose more money (and therefore more hungry people) in the long term.

It’s not black and white like you are trying to make it.

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keep seething .

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Ice cold take. Space programs are almost entirely about increasing domestic production with a strong R&D and training emphasis.

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Don’t tell me, tell the hungry. They’d love to hear your ice cold takes

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5 points

SpaceX and Daddy Elon isn’t happy.

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Elon

Who carez

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He’s incapable of being happy. That’s why he keeps taking other people’s toys and breaking them.

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I’d be happy to have him board the rocket to the Sun.

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Pretty insane to watch that India is taking over spacex and NASA.

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The day that India masters recoverable, or self-landing boosters, its over for SpaceX.

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Very interesting. Solar probes and low budgets usually don’t go together. That’s a lot of deceleration.

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I usually only thought about slingshotting to speed up, I’d never considered slowing down past that one scene in The Martian. Can you elaborate further?

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There are 2 ways to go sunward. You can shed speed to reduce orbital distance, but 30 km/s is a lot of velocity to change. Or you use another body (often antisunward) and a slingshot to put the craft in a highly eccentric orbit that, at times, is near the sun - so you have many proximal destinations you have to hit without error to meet your course. A mars transfer is easier but you want to hit certain proximity windows.

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From my knowledge in KSP, in a nutshell if you pass by a large gravitational mass on one side you’ll speed up, but if you pass on the other side you’ll slow down. Throw in an engine burn across the periapse (closest point) and you’ll amplify that much more.

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Combining gravity assists and the oberth effect is great

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