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Well, when you live in huts like cavemen and your population is very spread out, of course you’re going to be less impactful. Shrinking the population WOULD help, no matter how much you scream about eugenics and fascism. Gonna be downvoted for this, but it’s just my opinion at the end of the day. No need to get butthurt, keyboard warriors.

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What an extremely bigoted thing to say. Most of the worlds indigenous people don’t “live in huts like cavemen”. Where they do have poor living conditions, these are usually a product of external colonization and/or forced migrations leaving them in lands hostile to human life. You realize there are still over 6 million indigenous people in the US, right? Almost 500 million worldwide.

Yeah, shrinking the population would totally help, if we shrank the population starting at the top.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/04/carbon-footprint-gap-between-rich-poor-expanding-study

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what do you guys bet this image was made by a white person

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NEVER trust the vehement anti-natalist movements. It’s thinly veiled eugenics that brands itself as super-moral.

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That implies that the non richest 10% is happy with that and aren’t trying to catch up with the richest 10%. That is completely untrue. The idea behind decreasing the world population is that a smaller population could all live in modern comfort. I have a feeling that this comic was written by someone very much in the richest 10%.

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Not to mention the bio-diverse indigenous lands are largely in sparsely populated areas of the americas showing low population goes hand in hand with the better land management. As the comic says. Families, smallholders, and local communities. Not big urban cities. The corpo world we have is one reason when shipements from ukraine get disrupted there is starvation in africa and asia. If the 10% went away we would quickly lower our current population. The cartoon is correct until it gets to its conclusion in the last panel.

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Now please explain how you create a smaller population that doesn’t reek of eugenics, and you’ll see that problem.

Nazis also wanted a smaller population so that the privileged few that remained could have a higher quality of life.

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That is a disgusting over simplification of what the Nazis did and I’m not even going to bother talking to you if you’re just going to go straight to comparing everything to Nazis with zero nuance.

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All population control is a form of eugenics, and it is not possible to implement as a policy without it AT LEAST disproportionally affecting an “undesired” group. Whether that is racial, GSRM, people with disabilities, or even class.

Eugenics was the basis of the Final Solution, and should be looked at with disgust. There is no need for nuance when calling the sky blue.

Sorry if the comparison offended your, but I suggest you think a bit deeper about this. Population isn’t really the problem, logistical and environmental issues from capital are. And population control is a poison pill meant to greenwash abhorrent ideology.

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Now please explain how you create a smaller population that doesn’t reek of eugenics

Education. People tend to have fewer kids the more educated they become. Give everyone in the world top class educations, and the population will naturally decline.

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Theres always the quiverful movement and similar shit to worry about. But im actually fine sterilizing them when their at fhe hospital for kid number 2. Becuase fuck the quiverful movement they want to drag us back to the fucking stone age.

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Easy. Un idiot proof the world. All warning labels removed. All laws to protect the physical self removed (seatbelts, drugs, suicide, etc). Let natural selection resume it’s work and prune the people these warnings were made for.

That’s just one potential facet.

Also before anybody thinks they’re so clever to bring it up, yes I know I would’ve been one of the ones to die since I was a stupid kid

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I spent a long-ass time trying to work out why a bunch of randos, dressed in generic national costumes like when '80s Saturday morning cartoons tried to be diverse, would be eco-fascists who want to oppress the indigenous Irish. I actually almost thought it was a racist joke about how England isn’t as white as it used to be.

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The layout is a little confusing, but the message is the important part and is correct.

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