Vance is one of Trump’s most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

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Vance has said that it would be “completely irresponsible” for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

“Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you’re gonna have a peace deal, because that’s the only way out of the conflict,” Vance said in February.

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Yes, that’s kind of a pre-requisite to being on Putin’s payroll…

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He’s clearly on Peter Theil’s payroll. Theil personally bankrolled Vance’s senate campaign and was the only one Theil funded that was successful.

If you keep making up conspiracy theories that every Republican takes orders from Putin, you’re going to miss their actual agenda. Shit like Project2025 isn’t Putin’s agenda. Thats a Koch project. Theil’s got his own techno libertarian eugenicist project that Vance is an acolyte of.

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"Non interventionist

“Fully supports israel”

Meme candidates gonna meme

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Another Russian stoogie.

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Not everyone who disagrees with war or your position on it is deep throating Putin.

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But someone that blatantly argues for Russia’s benefit probably has some ulterior motives. Doesn’t have to be deep throating Putin, money will probably do.

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I mean it sounds like he wants chea p Russian labor and goods to compete with Chinese versions of the same.

He’s a Republican. He just wants to personally get rich and doesn’t consider or care what happens to other people on the way to it. Sacrificing half a country that isn’t his so that an oligarchy can turn around and sell back the oil, gas and coal of the land and potentially farm goods at a cheaper slave labor produced price sounds like shrewd business practice to him probably and figures it would get him on the good side of Putin a man with powerful connections.

He misses the mark that China and Russia are working together and you can’t really separate that to get one to hurt more than the other. But that’s getting to much in the weeds of his plans.

I know it’s hard but people generally aren’t some evil spy or some terrible monster aiming to cause destruction. A lot are just people. Self centered and uncaring of the pain they cause and sure they didn’t do anything wrong cause it was supposed to work out for them. People don’t need to get paid first to be awful.

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They have Putin’s cock firmly up their ass but they tell themselves it’s just a turd.

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Some of them just hate Ukranians for no reason?

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Not wanting to fund a war doesn’t mean they hate Ukraine or it’s citizens.

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oh yeah, it’s .world time

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This presupposes he believes in anything. I haven’t read it because everyone said it was garbage but I’m pretty sure he wrote his memoir about “Appalachia” when he grew up near Dayton, OH.

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He also cosplayed a poor person to speak to rich people about how “We poor people have horrible habits!” in what I can only refer to as a minstrel show for the privileged.

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That’s a pretty good description.

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He also cosplayed a poor person to speak to rich people about how “We poor people have horrible habits!” in what I can only refer to as a minstrel show for the privileged.

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I haven’t read it either. There is however a If Books Could Kill episode about it that is very worth listening to.

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I find it weird that his teacher pushed him to write his memoires in college. Who writes his memoires this early and why would a teacher push him to?

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I read it. It was not garbage, it contains useful insights. I recommend that people read it to understand politics. BUT, NOTE, CAVEAT: Approach it with your critical thinking cap on. The author is an unreliable narrator, which is unorthodox in a work of non-fiction.

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“Unreliable narrator […] in a work of non-fiction” is a fascinating way to say, “liar”.

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I’ve been on the outside observing this escalating shit show for 8 years now and I think I’ve finally reached the point where I don’t even have the words to convey what I feel about the current state of American politics.

I mean, I know there’s a lot of history behind it etc., but just the past months? I don’t even…

I hope shit gets better for ya’ll, I sincerely do.

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don’t even have the words to convey what I feel about the current state of American politics.

It’s just fascism, volks.

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Don’t worry. It won’t. As an American, I too have reached that point as well.

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Still rooting for all the millions of you that I know are awesome people, but …yeah.

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Don’t worry about it, a lot of us in the US feel the same. I’m just tired, boss.

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Putin is behind all of it

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He’s not. He didn’t put a gun to the head of the judges que made the president immune to prosecution. He didn’t punt a gun to the politicians denying climate change. He didn’t call on Trump’s followers to storm the US capitol. All of that was the US and it’s people.

Putin was probably just cheerleading his puppets as it all happened. But make no mistake, seeds only grow in fertile soil.

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I’m Finnish, so if there’s one thing I’m aware of it is Putin and his various machinations.

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