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WTF cares? Why the fk is the left so hell bent on censorship and controlling of all narratives?

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“Why are leftists so concerned over foreign authoritarian governments directly influencing the elections in their countries???”

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Unless there’s a clear violation of elections, like ballot stuffing and fraudulent votes by non-citizens and dead citizens… I could give a fk less. People have a right to speak their mind whether intelligent or psycho babbles.

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You are either incredibly naive or speak in bad faith. Pushing propaganda to misled the public in elections is much more dangerous than stuffing a few ballots into the box.

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2004: The Internet will lead to a utopian society without gatekeepers, without censorship, where we get our information from each other and primary sources, not media companies!

2024: The Internet is based on algorithmic attention. Those who control the algorithms control what parts of the immeasurably large pile of data will get attention and which not. Yet they are protected by the same intermediary liability laws as if they were traditional web forums, blog hosters, wikis with no personalized algorithm (for which those laws are very good and necessary).

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https://lemmy.world/comment/11235801

Stop using this to push your agenda about censorship and whatever. Censorship has never lead to anything good. Read the history books.

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Did you reply to the wrong comment? Where did I defend censorship?

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12 points

They are confusing censorship with manipulation. The algorithm is working.

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Terrible headline.

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Did anyone actually read the whole article? These comments sorta read like the answer is no.

The researchers say that their findings prove no active collaboration between TikTok and far-right parties like the AfD but that the platform’s structure gives bad actors an opportunity to flourish. “TikTok’s built-in features such as the ‘Others Searched For’ suggestions provides a poorly moderated space where the far-right, especially the AfD, is able to take advantage,” Miazia Schüler, a researcher with AI Forensics, tells WIRED.

A better headline might have been “TikTok algorithm gamed by far-right AfD party in Germany”, but I doubt that would drive as many clicks.

For more info, check out this article: Germany’s AfD on TikTok: The political battle for the youth

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It doesn’t matter if it is intentional or not, only the result matters: TikTok gave them boost in the visibility. Whether it was “an algorithm” or any other aspect of the company is irrelevant.

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It definitely matters. There’s a huge difference between promoting nazis and writing an algorithm that’s gamed by nazis.

This headline is designed to mislead people by erasing that difference. And the motives of people who have been attacking tiktok are generally trash.

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But being so big and influential as these platforms are, they should not have the option of “oops, sorry, didn’t think about that”. (I am aware I’m being idealistic)

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Ideas spread between humans. On systems designed to facilitate communications between people, these ideas will likewise spread. Did AfD exploit TikTok’s algorithm or is right wing populism seeing a large growth worldwide?

When the printing press come out and certain news agencies starting “Yellow Journalism” were they exploiting that system of communication for profit?

Did JFK and Nixon exploit TV for their own political purposes?

I believe wholeheartedly that every social media algorithm should be open source and transparent so the public can analyze what funny business is going on under the hood.

But is it any different from how TV channels pick what shows to play or what ads to run? Which articles get printed and the choice of words for a newspaper?

I think people are quick to jump on TikTok because of some unusual socially acceptable jingoism but I don’t see how at its core is fundamentally different from other forms of media, let alone other popular social media platforms.

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We’ll have to agree to disagree. I prefer nuance to oversimplification.

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Also knowing how scummy these social media companies are and how they operate inside, there could be some internal memo to the moderators to let the AfD reign free (happened with Twitter and Libs of Tiktok).

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I wouldn’t just lump all “social media” companies together.

In this example an important difference is that Twitter is a porn site run by fascists.

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god i can’t imagine getting politics on tiktok i thank goddess every day i’m well in the confines of booktok, piratetok, hazbintok, and cattok.

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