Batman oppresses crime and everybody thinks he’s cool, I don’t see why oppressing fascists should be any different
Batman is a billionaire vigilante that destroys half of Gotham every few days. What are you talking about. He would be the first to go full fascist.
Batman being fascist really depends on whos writing him. In some comics he is a control freak fascist. In some he is barely keeping it together and is just as crazy as those in Arkham asylum. In others he is the shield against the madness of Arkham. In others he is fighting again authoritarian Superman. And in others still he is painting Robin and himself yellow and beating the shit out of Green lantern for some fucking reason.
I don’t know what my point is beyond Batman can very a lot.
He would be the first to go full fascist.
If I recall correctly, he pretty much did in the Christopher Nolan Batman films.
Full surveillance state, not sure if facist fully applies but definitely crossed some significant lines in those movies
Can someone explain batman’s appeal? Is it just that he’s so angry and traumatized all the time?
Part of the appeal I think is he’s “relatable” because he doesn’t have real super powers. In my opinion, he’s less relatable because he has enough money to functionally have superpowers anyway. The normal people who end up with super powers almost certainly share more in common with us “normal” people.
The thing I take away from Batman is that if you think a problem though, you can prepare for what might happen and have a response ready, making you look like a super hero for those without the foresight. It’s a power anyone can have, so it’s very relatable and actually a valuable lesson.
Also, in many of the stories he is a terribly broken and traumatized man, and those sorts of characters are usually more interesting. Batman has just been around for so long he was brooding and sullen before brooding and sullen were cool which gives him additional cred. As the “flipside” to the Boy Scout Superman (at least at times) but the two have the same goals is where I really enjoy the character, I think the Justice League show did a very good job there in playing the two against each other.
One thing is, like others have said, he has had very different personalities depending on writing so you may really only like certain versions of him and that’s valid.
Any superhero can go full fascist if we think about it. That’s literally the theme of the injustice saga! Superman, the sweetest and most kind of heroes, created a world government ruled only by those who he deemed worthy and started killing anyone “bad”. Any superhero, if mentally challenged enough (for context Superman just had his pregnant wife killed and his city destroyed), can do pretty much that. (That’s also where Batman’s contingency plans come in)
Being tolerant to intolerance leads to more intolerance. Being intolerant to intolerance does not lead to more intolerance.
It is not just OK, but necessary to be intolerant towards fascist ideologies.
I believe Nazis should be black-bagged instead of punched; punching them will humiliate the individual, but may also unite the group or serve as propagnda for accelerating their agenda.
There’s some 48 Laws of Power (it’s okay, you can cringe.) such-and-such about only attacking an enemy if you can utterly crush them, being careful to avoid leaving them wounded or humiliated , and retaining your initiative by maintaining the secrecy of your position. Bagging does all of this, and improves your odds of retaining your right to bear arms in the eyes of the law.
So like how doctors are oppressing death and disease?
If the pandemic showed us one thing, then that there are people who will side with death and disease just to own the libs.
For those interested on further reading, the paradox of tolerance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
I see this answer given a lot on reddit when this paradox is brought up so I’ll post it here too. There is no paradox of tolerance because tolerance is not a rule but a social contract. When someone is intolerant they have violated said social contract and thus are no longer covered by it and are not granted tolerance. We tolerate those who tolerate others.
Come on, old man, you and i used to punch Nazis, and now you’re defending them?
