There is literally 0 chance the area I live in will be blue. Does me going out and voting actually do anything besides add to the popular vote tally?

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just under 50% of people voted in Ohio in the 2020 election.

Trump won by 8%.

If just 9% of the people who felt like you (what’s the point of voting) had showed up to vote for Biden, that would have flipped the state.

No single raindrop believes it can make any difference. But together, all those insignificant raindrops can change the course of a river in a single day.

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I wish I could nominate your comment to be pinned to the top of responses. Alas, all I have is a single upvote; but you have it.

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Each of us upvoted, making this the top comment in the thread. I voted to make a difference.

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Team effort. And that’s how we win.

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And my ax!

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And my Stapler!

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This is EXACTLY what was in my head as I wrote the post.

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If, and it’s a big IF, the electronic voting system software is legit.

So easy to do. Or, used to be.

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Vote anyway. Voter apathy is largely how things got so bad.

I’m in a similarly red state. I know my vote probably isn’t going to matter (thanks, Obama Electoral College), but I’m going to do it anyway. And I’m trying to get as many people around me out to vote as well.

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You should go vote if for no other reason than to keep Sherrod Brown in his seat.

And honestly nobody knows what’s actually going to happen in this election. Ohio is β€œred” (god I hate that terminology) only by a few points. It’s flippable in the right circumstances. Like if people remember that MAGA wants to force 10 year old rape victims to have their attacker’s baby.

This is a numbers and momentum game. If you vote AND some of your fellow closeted Midwestern Democrats (or at least pro small-d democracy) vote and convince some people who want to have a chance to fix American democracy to vote for the Democratic nominee, Ohio could flip.

They all could. If there were justice in the world, all 50 states would be β€œblue” on November 5th because of who Trump is, what he’s done in the past, and what he’s telling us he’ll do in the future.

Vote!

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I know my vote probably isn’t going to matter (thanks, Obama Electoral College)

Unironically we can assign some blame to Obama…

In 08 he had the opportunity to β€œsave” the DNC. Instead he viewed the entire concept as outdated and ignored the party, instead handling everything internally on his team

If Obama (or more recently Biden) had worked on the DNC and tried to build it up after Hillary’s people burnt it all down (once in 08, again in 16) we wouldnt have had to suffer thru trump and would be seeing the end of a.progressive presidents second term right now.

If he’d have done that and lived up to 08 campaign promises, then there probably wouldn’t be any β€œred states” left by now.

Obama didn’t break the party, but he had a chance to fix an already broken party and instead just ignored it. We’re still paying for it

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Holy mental backflips to change talk about the electoral college to talk about the DNC and act as if they’re the same.

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Are you not aware of how since 2016 the DNC has used β€œvictory funds” that β€œshare” donations with state parties and that has lead to Republicans solidifying power in red states and using that power to maintain it thru things like gerrymandering and voter suppression? And that those things exacerbate existing issues with electoral college?

But during the three-month period when the DNC was working to spin the situation, state parties kept less than one half of one percent of the $82 million raised through the arrangement β€” validating concerns raised by campaign finance watchdogs, state party allies and Bernie Sanders supporters.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-state-cash-concerns-226191

That program is still around. Today it’s known as the Biden Victory Fund.

https://www.opensecrets.org/joint-fundraising-committees-jfcs/biden-victory-fund/C00744946/2024/summary

But there is about a million going to each state and 90 to Joe so far. So it is a little better…

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This post is kind of like when somebody who doesn’t know anything about cars starts throwing out words like carburator, transmission, and alternator because they know those are car things, but they have no idea how to use them in the context of how they are actually relevant.

It’s hard to begin to know how to tackle correcting anything because the amount of effort it would take to unweave and reconstruct the kernels of truth is like trying to extract an egg out of a fully baked cake.

This is probably overly harsh considering the slant of the post is absolutely in the right spirit, the analysis is just completely broken.

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Will you just stop man? Jesus fucking Christ with the β€œeverything is the fault of democrats” bullshit.

Be less obvious.

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Remember that the president isn’t the only thing on the ballot.

Don’t give up on fighting fascism from your school board up to your state reps. If you organize/join existing groups, you can make your voice heard.

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Your vote is sending a signal to future elections. If Ohio has a 20-point red margin, it’s unlikely to get any attention from blue candidates. If it has a 5% margin, that changes, and suddenly the next campaign considers spending time & money to try and move the needle.

Remember the old Roman adage: β€œyou’re not defeated until you admit defeat”. If you don’t vote: you’ve lost. If you vote, you might still lose that election but there’s a better chance to win in the future.

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Berthold Brecht:

Anyone who stays at home when the war begins and lets others fight for their cause must be careful: because whoever did not share the fight will share the defeat.

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Always vote. Progressives lose elections because 30% of any population votes for the conservative at every single election, no matter what, like it’s a religion. Progressives need a culture that says: ALWAYS VOTE. It doesn’t fucking matter if it doesn’t fucking matter. Vote anyway. Let your kids see you voting like it’s actually important. Make it important.

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One of the best comments I’ve seen here. Kudos

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