As more and more states pass laws targeting “pornographic material” in books and online, they are repeatedly running up against a problem: The Bible has not just a few passages that could be considered indecent

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The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include “vulgar” content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.

There’s no hypocrisy here.

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Selective enforcement is the core of conservative law making.

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Broad generalizations like this do nothing but reinforce echochambers.

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It’s not a broad generalization at all. It’s a widespread pattern of hypocritical and contradictory conservative outrage, statements, and laws.

  • “I should be able to teach kids about the Bible in school, but you can’t teach them about Yoga”
  • “we can’t have vulgar language, oh unless it’s from our religious book”
  • “I can’t make a cake for you because you’re gay and that’s against my religion. What do you mean you won’t make a Christian cake? That’s religious discrimination!”
  • “Happy holidays!??! Happy holidays??! You monster, how dare you wage war on Christmas! We have religious liberty in this country! What do you mean that protects other religions? There’s only one God and one religion!”
  • “It’s totally fine that the polling places in large democratic areas have hours long waits so long as my polling places are quick and easy”
  • “it’s totally fine that a county with 10,000 people has the same number of ballot drop boxes as a country with 3,000,000 people”
  • “marriage is between a man and woman … and may include 17 divorces; they gays can’t have it”
  • “we need to teach kids (i.e., indoctrinate them in the ways of) Jesus not this woke (black history, trans, etc)”
  • “let’s let white kids off with a slap on the wrist while we throw a black kid in jail for smoking a plant”
  • “I can’t believe a president could have such a scandal in the white house as to have had an affair with an assistant! We need to impeach! No, I don’t think extorting an ally for information about an opponent is worthy of an impeachment! Trying to overthrow a legitimate presidental victor with a procedural trick? Nah that’s not worth an impeachment either! Oh but hey, this Biden guy’s son who lost one of his parents and a sibling in a car crash, that lost his brother to cancer, that has a drug problem, called his dad while he was in business meetings to show off… so you know his dad definitely was up to something! We’ve got to impeach him over that! What do you mean that was before he was even president and that’s completely unprecedented?”
  • “We should totally lock her up for those emails! What do you mean the guy screaming that’s son and law did the exact same thing?”
  • “We’re sorry we can’t appoint a supreme court justice just before the election! Psych! We totally can if it’s nominated by OUR president!”
  • “We need law and order in this country! What do you mean Trump broke the law? Nah, I’m not hearing it; this is clearly a partisan witch hunt and the majority conservative staff of the FBI is out to get conservatives! Oh but we’ll DEFINITELY weaponize the federal government and go after our political rivals full steam if we get the presidency in 2024”
  • “I believe abortion is amoral, that’s why I hid the fact that my ex/current lovers have had one”
  • “I believe homosexuality is amoral, that’s why I am one in the closet”
  • “we’re going to be the party of health care, but don’t watch as we strip you of your federal protections for your health care”
  • “we’re the party of the little man, but don’t watch as we cut taxes for the rich (and you but make sure that expires under the next term (probably while the Democrats are in power)”
  • “the national debt is an outage! Oh let’s spend as much as Obama did in half the time! Oh Biden is in power again, spending is out of control!”
  • “the problem isn’t guns it’s mental health, but we’re not going to do anything about that either! Must be because the kids aren’t in church, the gays, video games, or hey look over there, a squirrel!”
  • “climate change? Nah. It’s not real. Okay maybe it is, but it doesn’t matter because look at China! Oh we could make a dent and get the ball rolling? Well, it’s too late anyways, we should’ve been building nuclear plants! What do you mean I just made that up? Clearly I’ve been trying to solve this via nuclear the whole time, and it’s not another dog whistle! Oh and btw all of my top presidential candidates say they don’t believe in man made climate change! But yeah, totally serious about this issue!!”

… and that’s just off the top of my head. If you’re a conservative, wake up, your party is a mess.

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Sort of, but also, Christianity is a death cult that enables child molesters and promotes hate, so there is not much room for subtly. It is also profoundly lacking in any basis of reality and frankly teaches deranged ideas that harm children’s ability to make rational judgments about reality.

Also a church is the worst kind of echo chamber.

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Broadly speaking though, it’s true. Do you have counter examples to offer?

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does the law allow a school board to override the law? That seems odd.

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We all knew they were gonna figure out a way that the law doesn’t apply to them and the stuff they like. That’s like the fundamental constant of conservatives, it’s different when we do it because we’re not those people.

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“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” –Francis M. Wilhoit

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Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.

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Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.

Love thy Neighbor, as you would love yourself.

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Love thy Neighbor, as you would love yourself: ferociously.

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Fuck yeah, spread it

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TBF understanding that horses are known for their voluminous ejaculation is critical knowledge for children.

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God is a brony confirmed

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Time to start giving the kids leaflets that highlight all the Communist teachings of Christ. Use The Bible to radicalize the youth!

Betcha they yank the book, tout suite.

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They’d just lie and say the pamphlets are twisting Jesus’ words and use that as a pretext to ban the pamphlets.

Cognitive dissonance is a helluva drug

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They would also use it as an excuse to try and teach the Bible in schools. Ya know, to correct the misinformation in those pamphlets.

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Well, church leaders have been reporting that the sermon on the mount (or whatever) is being criticized as woke. Maybe there’s something to this idea after all.

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129 points

What’s Reddit?

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A proprietary, for-profit version of Lemmy

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64 points

You forgot shitty version of Lemmy.

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Tbh with all the extremist propaganda from places like hexbear, Lemmy is the shitty version of Lemmy.

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27 points

Ew, sounds gross and like one greedy cunt can ruin everything. Pass

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fucks pez

Wait I messed up

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I wouldn’t go. It’s mostly spambots and crypto scams.

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20 points

I hope it doesn’t catch on

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Weird, why would they want to make something like that?

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So they can fool investors into buying shares. They do things like offer 100$ in free advertising credit to boost advertiser numbers, and ban 3rd party apps/run a pixelboard to boost user numbers.

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Because it was there first and we didn’t know better yet

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When have they ever made a profit?

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No one said the people running it are competent.

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For profit doesn’t mean they are successful

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reddit.club

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Old stuff, like a digg or something.

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Some sort of mollusc.

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Don’t bring us into it.

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A social media platform we don’t talk about because Fuck u/spez

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The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include “vulgar” content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.

Now to challenge the “significant, serious” value. Truth before law is based on facts, right?

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Upthread I suggested leaflets that use chapter and verse to highlight the Communist teachings of The Christ. Radicalize the youth using The Bible!

Betcha they yank the book, almost immediately.

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What value? It has none. Zero.

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That law is a complete waste of time. It’s inevitable its going to be overturned (if theres at least a shred of common sense in the Virginia courts)

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The majority of porn sites don’t even bother trying to comply with laws like this and there’s nothing state governments can do about it.

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Yep, sites that wish to comply with the new regulation simply block traffic from those states. Search results for VPNs increase sharply for a few days and nothing really changes.

Laws arn’t that easy to pass, makes you think if that effort was put into something constructive instead of reinforcing that prohibition doesn’t work…

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What does the law actually do?

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It makes conservatives feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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Forces people of Virginia to start using VPN’s.

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The law makes it so a person can sue a website operator for making explicit content available without using a commercial ID verification service. This law applies if the site’s contents contain > 33% of whatever-the-legal-term-for-basically-porn is.

It was made because a legislator is unable to figure out how to set up content filters for their kids: https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/07/why-am-i-getting-threats-seriously-your-porn-va-state-senator-sparks-outrage-with-age-verification-law/

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They’ll appeal to the Trump SCOTUS.

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Deuteronomy 28:53-57, where you eat the flesh of your own children seems kinda indecent

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Less indecent if it’s remnant from the days of a famine.

A mistake a lot of people make in analyzing the text is in assuming the official story about its origin, contents, and authorship is correct outside supernatural stuff.

But there’s actually a compelling case Noah was originally a story about escaping a famine, so there may well have been a period when eating the flesh of one’s children was a part of the ancestral history of the people transmitting the stories.

The Geeks have similar stories.

It may well be that Deuteronomy 28:48-57 isn’t a warning about a certain future event, but a warning from similar things having happened many times before.

Eating your family because an army whose language you don’t even know is sieging your city and you are all starving is probably just a fairly common part of many generations of history around the world during those times.

There’s much worse things in the Bible than likely representative history.

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The Geeks have similar stories.

I’m sure they do, especially in their D&D Campaigns.

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Fair, but you’re looking at it from a good faith perspective that examines the spirit of the “law” for want of a better term, rather than the literal meaning of it, as I did. That was a deliberate glibness on my part because I wanted to examine and interpret it in the same way that the bible apologists and literalists do in order to cherry pick passages in the bible to further their hateful idiot agenda. You can find and interpret both support and condemnation in the bible for anything, often in the same passage depending on who’s reading it. Thanks for the interesting link!

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Or pretty much all of Song of Solomon.

Example (Song of Solomon 7:6‭-‬9):

How beautiful you are and how pleasing, my love, with your delights! Your stature is like that of the palm, and your breasts like clusters of fruit. I said, “I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.” May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. May the wine go straight to my beloved, flowing gently over lips and teeth.

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