Southwest Airlines, the fourth largest airline in the US, is seemingly unaffected by the problematic CrowdStrike update that caused millions of computers to BSoD (Blue Screen of Death) because it used Windows 3.1. The CrowdStrike issue disrupted operations globally after a faulty update caused newer computers to freeze and stop working, with many prominent institutions, including airports and almost all US airlines, including United, Delta, and American Airlines, needing to stop flights.

Windows 3.1, launched in 1992, is likely not getting any updates. So, when CrowdStrike pushed the faulty update to all its customers, Southwest wasn’t affected (because it didn’t receive an update to begin with).

The airlines affected by the CrowdStrike update had to ground their fleets because many of their background systems refused to operate. These systems could include pilot and fleet scheduling, maintenance records, ticketing, etc. Thankfully, the lousy update did not affect aircraft systems, ensuring that everything airborne remained safe and were always in control of their pilots.

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Or, for your consideration, could it perhaps be because they don’t use crowdstrike?

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Yeah, what? 3.1 not getting updates has nothing to do with this. Software developed for 3.1 can still be updated. This article is just silly.

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Likely the same reason why banks and other financial institutions still use COBOL and Fortran code written in the 1970s or earlier on archaic mainframes: Top management decided at some point it was too expensive to rewrite everything from scratch in some modern language for modern hardware, so they just limp along with what they have.

A 16-bit app written for Windows 3.x would almost certainly have to be rewritten for modern, 64-bit Windows.

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It isn’t even a Windows update, but a software update.

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My Linux servers weren’t affected either. I think it’s because of Windows 3.1

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My wife shared this with me yesterday, but I didn’t see it:

Somebunny is gonna learn those things aren’t windows-based today!

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Just yesterday I had that exact “Tech enthusiast vs tech worker” meme play out. I wanted a timer to control the electrical outlet for an aquarium bubbler. Saleswoman really wanted to sell me this “smart” controller with an app that can program the outlet.

Me:“What happens when the app stops working?”

(saleswoman is frantically flipping the box over for answers)

Her:“…maybe…it keeps the existing timer?”

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My old thermostat was basically two teaspoons of mercury that would expand and contract with the temperature to short out two leads. They didn’t let me keep it when I got a new one, but I got the dumbest one they had.

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I feel like every article out there is missing this and keeps blaming Windows Update vs an update pushed to a specific piece of software by a third-party developer. I get end-users not understanding how things work but tech writers should be more knowledgeable about the subject they write about for a living.

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Yeah what a badly written article, with awful takeaways.

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Best feature windows 3.1 has:

… it doesn’t pop up message telling you to upgrade to windows 11.

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or add shitty AI tools without asking.

or constntly nag you to use their cloud storage

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Plus all them decks for solitaire!!!

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My windows 10 PC is telling me I don’t qualify for a free Windows 11 update, so I’ve got that going for me.

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Haha. I’ve got one of those too.

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Shhh don’t give microsoft any ideas

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Windows 3.1 didn’t have the BSOD. It just froze. I remember with Windows NT 4, when we first got the BSOD, being so grateful that Microsoft decided to actually tell us that our computer wasn’t going to recover from the error. Otherwise, we’d just be sitting there, waiting, hoping it would unfreeze itself.

It never did

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Windows 3.1 did have a BSOD. It wasn’t always fatal, you could try to hit enter to go back to Windows, but most of the time it wasn’t really recoverable, Windows often wouldn’t work right afterwards.

I ran into them all the time in 3.11 on our 486 which had some faulty RAM (the BSOD would even be scrambled). If we could get back to Windows after that, it’d just be in a zombie state where moving the mouse around would paint stuff over whatever was left on screen, and wouldn’t respond to clicks or keypresses.

Fun times.

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IIRC Windows 95 did that as well

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Are you sure? I remember a long time ago being able to trigger a BSOD by opening Windows Calculator and dividing any number by 0. And I’m pretty sure that was 3.1 or 3.11.

In fact, I remember being able to change the color of the BSOD.

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As another user mentioned, the BSOD first came in Windows NT 3.51.

But it definitely wasn’t in Windows 3.1 or Windows 3.11

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The other user is wrong. I clearly remember the BSoD in Windows 3.1. You can find it easily with a simple web search. Here it is:

Hell, there were even memes of it:

Edit: I provided proof and was still downvoted lol. This place is quickly turning into reddit.

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Windows 3.1 absolutely did have a BSoD, and as the other person mentioned, sometimes you could press a key and the OS would recover. More often than not you needed to reboot, though. Our family PC would BSoD all the damn time, and I had to put up with it throughout a good portion of my early childhood until my dad finally bought a Windows 98 SE PC. But that OS also had its fair share of instability issues. The “illegal operation” error message was a near-daily occurance.

It wasn’t until we got our first NT-based machine (XP) that we stopped having constant issues with Windows. The DOS-based Windows OSes were notoriously unstable.

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😄it still do that on my over 20y old 2gig RAM Arch KDE on wayland macBookPro 🤔

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The fact that they’re running 3.1 is not something to be proud of. They’re probably extremely vulnerable to any other attack.

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Quite the opposite.

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Please explain. I’ll make 🍿

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Microsoft’s Wolverine for the TCP stack was not available until Windows 3.11. An argument could be made that these systems are defacto air-gapped as they cannot communicate with modern networking.

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This… Doesn’t make me feel any better about flying Southwest

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i don’t think there’s any possible way to feel better about flying southwest

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Wait till you hear of how much COBOL in industries…

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Old programming languages are fine. Hard to maintain though. But they all compile down to machine code at the end of the day.

Old operating systems on the other hand means they are vulnerable to all kinds of exploits that have been discovered in that OS over the past few decades. That’s a much bigger problem.

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i think you accedentaly put southwest instead of spirit.

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Spirit is already a non starter for me because my legs don’t fit in the seat haha

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because Boeing or why?

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