Nestle? Spectrum? Some random company nobody knows about?

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Meat producers.

Trillions of animals killed for profit every year.

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And they are delicious

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What a disgusting thing to say.

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You just told us that selling meat is worse than slavery.

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…And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?

And that’s ignoring the small obligate carnivores that make up most of the pets in the world.

Hey, I’d rather hunt my own food too, but we no longer live in tribal or feudal societies where you can reasonably expect to engage in animal husbandry yourself.

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We shouldn’t be eating meat or any other animal products.

Animals are living and feeling beings who experience the world much like humans do, we shouldn’t be exploiting, abusing or killing them for profit/taste when we can easily avoid it.

And it’s terrible for the planet.

Environmental Impacts of Food Production

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Youd hate herbivores then, they have the most expendable energy for defence and obviously don’t need to kill - they’re herbivores

Just look at how deadly fucking hippos are

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First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don’t. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)

Second: What would you propose replacing animal products with, when there are no alternatives that function as well? What about when the alternative products also cause greater environmental harms?

Third: So you would not have a problem with, for instance, hunting and eating invasive species, since those species cause more harm to existing ecosystems than not eradicating them would? What about when those invasive species are also highly intelligent, e.g. feral pigs? Or is it better to let them wreck existing ecosystems so that humans aren’t causing harm? To drill down on that further, should humans allow harm to happen by failing to act, or should we cause harm to prevent greater harm?

Fourth: “Exploiting” is such an interesting claim. Vegans are typically opposed to honey, since they view it as an exploitative product. Are you aware that without commercial apiaries, agriculture would collapse? That is, without exploiting honey bees, we are not capable of pollinating crops?

Would you agree, given that all food production for humans causes environmental harm, that the only rational approach to eliminate that harm is the eradication of humanity?

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Genuinely curious: How do you feel about the lab-grown meat technology? Would you consider being an omnivore if no animals suffered or died to provide the meat?

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We very much so do live in a society where you can easily engage in animal Husbandry on your own.

Almost everyone I know raises their own food and sells the excess to City Dwellers…but, to be fair I manage a 40k bird turkey farm

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No offence fam but thats just straight up generational wealth. I live in an extremely farmer filled area and there’s not a chance me in my 1.4 k monthly apartment could ever dream of owning even a small farm - much less have the time to and still pay bills.

I know a couple people who produce 70% of their own consumption, and are only able to do so cause theyre loaded as tits.

Im glad you’re able to be shielded from the economy, but not everyone has that privilege (and ngl im even well off in my area)

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Based, carnists downvoting you because they don’t want to admit their lifestyle is abusive and unethical

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<3

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Man, this is like going against slavery in the past, you are going to be downvoted to hell, but, in the future you will be on the right side of history, cheers.

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It’s so damn exhausting, I’m just saying we should stop needlessly abusing animals, for some reason that’s controversial…

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Holy shit you just compare meat eating to actual slavery? And you guys wonder why people think you’re fanatics.

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Change “animal” for “jew”. If it’s an atrocity with a human it is an atrocity with another being. Sorry if you can’t see it, it’s not our fault.

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USA

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Lemmy moment

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long island jewish northwell 23 hospital monopoly chemically tortured me October 2005 for being bisexual, 2013 and 2014 banned Quran, July 2019 “Muslims, Blacks are a delusion,” May 24, 2020 liquid poison and religious interrogation for questioning overdose death of African American; has admitted stalker gang member employees; 9/5/2022 perjured 10 times rather than listen to my Advance Directive or history, 9/26/22 11 AM doctor and staff pushed me for no reason while hands in the air; contempt of court overdosing for 2 months ending with will “destroy your ambition” to marry a foreigner.

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Google

They made private data the „new gold“ which it is today long before social media started exploiting it. Changing their motto /code of conduct „Don’t be evil“ into „Do the right thing“ (for our shareholders) didn’t benefit their reputation either…

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Changing their motto /code of conduct „Don’t be evil“ into „Do the right thing“ (for our shareholders) didn’t benefit their reputation either…

It’s still in their code of conduct, though.

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Only as a joke.

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Murdered numerous workers, women, and children in the US for starting a union. Government let them do it with no repercussions. .

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Who did?

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