204 points

Felon does not want to face attorney general.

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Old man doesn’t want to face someone nearly 20 years younger than him. Who’s too old to do the job now, Don?

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159 points

Of course he’s afraid to debate Kamala. She’s a prosecutor and he’s a convicted felon.

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Lmao which one of you mouth breathers is downvote on this?

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10h later it is still just a single downvote.

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I likely up/downvote comments by accident with my fat-fingers.

Weren’t lemmy votes public btw? At least for every instance admin…?

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Ah, fair play, kinda easy to do on accident

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Don’t turn off the mics on this debate. Ignore the host. Let Dementia Donnie gas himself out. Let Harris interrogate him of his crimes and put it in public. I wanna see how long he can kee on screaming at the mic for two hours.

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3 points

He’d just claim it was false. You’d have better luck nailing Jell-O to the wall.

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The thing is he doesn’t to admit to anything. People are going to vote for him no matter what but a small logical percentage could be swayed away from him.

Catching him in lies and even maybe using that against him in the future.

But really I just want to see his burnt orange face turn red.

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144 points

He should be afraid. She’ll run laps around him.

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she already does ☞ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3gU-OLyrEA

only 1:17

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40 points

That clip makes me remember what it is like to smile again

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Absolutely unrelated to the video, but Youtube comments are something else man…

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4 points

I had the same realization earlier today. Is this what the social Internet is like without moderators? It’s nuts over there.

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Way too smug, she needs to dial it back and get serious.

Love the last line, though. That was perfect.

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1 point

Yeah be more ladylike ffs

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I mean, I’d be afraid to debate a successful criminal procescutor

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I also recall she landed some really good body shots on Biden in the '20 primaries. They were pretty obviously scripted, but they still hit hard. It’s practically the only thing I remember about her primary run.

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Pretty much this. Since most presidential debates have abandoned fact-checking for this and the previous election, he’s free to lie, and nobody but the other candidate can call her on it.

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FWIW, simply being a successful prosecutor doesn’t make someone competent. Harris is competent, but that’s not the reason why she was successful as a prosecutor. Prosecutors have the entire weight of the state behind them, which leads to most people taking plea deals. Even bad prosecutors end up putting tons of people in jail.

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2 points

That and a good comedian.

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Ultimately, it’s his call.

This is checks calendar 2024. Candidates don’t need to debate, they all have to agree to it. If Trump doesn’t want to debate, then it’s not going to happen unless they basically give into his demands, because ignoring debates no longer looks bad (which is insane, but here we are).

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It’s not that he needs to do the debate, but he did the first because it fed his ego of being a strong man. So, him having to back out of the debate without having a scapegoat will eat at his ego of a strong man. So this word salad he spews setting the stage to duck the debate is as about rationalizing it to his ego far more than any real campaign reasoning. Trump does everything for Trump, and this whole campaign is largely about getting in the White House so he can stay out of the big house (prison).

Edit victim of autocorrect

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Which is why this is all so exciting.

This is like her specialty.

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Is it?

I get that she was a prosecutor, but I’m simultaneously hearing people make this claim and at the same time say they haven’t seen her debate much, or she was unremarkable.

Guess I just don’t want to get my hopes too high. We really need someone quick-witted and who can bat the bullshit down.

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Yeah, seems likely that other republicans knew Biden’s condition was worse than the campaign was letting on and Trump was banking on that for the debate (and election in general).

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Well listening to all the conspiracies coming from the Right prior to the debate they expected the Biden we saw at the State of the Union. And afterwards they accused him of being on performance enhancing drugs (because he could make whole logical sentences that Trump is struggling with these days).

Trump had a plan of just spewing a bunch of shit and calling Joe names, full stop. He got lucky that Joe made that easier for him, although he still made more sense than Trump. The Right has been running on the following since Trump announced:

  1. The immigrants that our economy depends on are out to replace white people/kill and rape white women/bring crime.

  2. Joe is old/sleepy (and sometimes responsible for things Trump did).

  3. Bury any mention of Project 2025 because nobody but elite Christofascists will benefit from it, and thus wildly unpopular even with the right.

  4. Keep Trump out of jail.

Edit ugh spell check

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37 points

It still very much looks bad. You come across as spineless, especially if you’re not way ahead in the polls.

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21 points

Oh it looks bad, just not to an insane 30% of Americans who avoid reality as much as they can

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I think debates don’t really matter anymore because what these people say and do is reported on constantly all day every day. That wasn’t how it used to be.

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60 points

If debates didn’t matter, Biden would still be the nominee.

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8 points

You know that the debate response had nothing to do with the debate topics or responses. Any other press conference that day would have likely had the same response. It wasn’t what he was saying that was the problem.

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Debates don’t matter and that is a prime example. Trump gave no coherent answers while Biden was able to answer all but 2 questions. Yet the response was as if biden answered 0 questions and Trump intellectually ran circles around him.

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That’s not necessarily represenative of how they act in person, spontaneously.

I go in assuming all social media is basically a lie.

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Why are you getting your news from social media?

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Also the format of the debates is pretty terrible. Giving only 2 minutes to answer on complex social and geopolitical topics only lends itself to trying to make the best sound-bite. I would love to see them experiment with longer form responses (even if that means fewer questions each debate), as well as things like cutaways for adding context and fact-checking.

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I would like the debate moderators to be less cowardly and I would like the fact checking. There should be a buzzer when a candidate tells a blatant lie.

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He would be giving her an entire hour of free prime time media.

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