105 points

What we’re begging for: A Linux client for Proton Drive

What we get: A fucking Bitcoin wallet

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Im about to get my pitchforks out over it man.

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13 points

I want to be able to print my calendar!

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Even on Windows, Proton drive is hot garbage. It never syncs my files correctly. Has a tendency to leave half encrypted uploads just lying around. Eating up desk space.

Don’t even get me started on how long it takes to upload anything. Got a 1 GB file? Good luck!

And that’s before getting into the fact that it’s proton’s third product. It was announced in 2019. 5 years and they still don’t have proton drive as a working product.

Another gripe I have is that the Linux VPN client still doesn’t support wireguard. Sure, you can download wireguard configuration files. And they work just fine. But changing servers is a pain in the ass because of it.

It’s made me seriously consider dropping my visionary plan and moving to a more competent provider.

That being said, proton mail has been fantastic. And I have a ton of domains on it. So it would be a pain to move. I guess I’m just in a stalemate.

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Good to know. I’ve only been using Proton for like 4 months now and have thus far generally liked the experience, but that’s too bad about your experiences with the Drive client. I’ve used several paid business suites over the years through work and they all have their issues though. The only one that was generally solid was Google’s and I’ve gradually taken steps to remove their products from my life so there’s no going back to them for me. It was also almost 10 years ago since I last used Google’s paid email/Drive, so maybe it’s also gone to shit.

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3 points

does rclone not work?

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I’ve actually meant to try that but haven’t yet gotten around to it. I’d still love an official app though, as sometimes 3rd party solutions don’t work great with cloud storage (at least in my experience).

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43 points

I’m upvoting because this is good relevant information, but man I wanted to downvote. How awful.

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8 points

I’m petty enough to downvote anything remotely endorsing shitcoin, this one’s for you 🤝

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28 points

It seems everyone here think an organization can’t have multiple teams working in more than one thing at the same time

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That assumes dev resources are limitless. And for a company the size of proton that’s certainly not true.

They can only have X amount of devs. So how they allocate them says a lot.

Also given that most complaints I’ve seen at the top are about specific missing features for ages, I think it’s safe they’re putting their eggs into too many baskets.

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4 points

That would make too much sense, something in short supply in companies these days.

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25 points

what? why?? there are so many open source options already???

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51 points

This and the new LLM “feature” in ProtonMail suggests that someone higher up has had a sniff of the techbro kool-aid.

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Yeah. Part of what I get for paying is the Bridge app so I can use Thunderbird instead of the website. I don’t want or need the LLM thing.

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8 points

I pay for it because I thought it was a trustworthy service that had earnt my money. Instead, if they continue with stuff like this then I’ll go back to not trusting subscription services again.

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15 points

Are there any that are cloud-hosted, secure, and private? My experience is limited, but I’ve never found an easy way in. I can’t imagine anyone who’s not tech-savvy getting started without walking through a minefield of scams.

Every now and then I look at options for how I might actually use crypto, and everything looks either outrageously scammy or way too much trouble. Pretty much every exchange I’ve looked at holds the keys to your account, and several have gone under or outright stolen their users’ funds.

The question is, when Proton embraces bitcoin, should it make me trust bitcoin more, or trust Proton less? I don’t know. I’m still skeptical. Their blog post is interesting, but also doesn’t answer a lot of questions. https://proton.me/blog/proton-wallet-launch

I mean, look at this:

Buy Bitcoin securely in 150+ countries

If you are new to Bitcoin, Proton Wallet also has integrations that make it easy to buy Bitcoin in 150+ countries, and we have also put together a comprehensive Bitcoin guide for newcomers.

That “comprehensive” guide spends three paragraphs talking about the “Blocksize War”, and makes absolutely no mention of how a user can actually buy bitcoin using Proton Wallet. WTF, Proton? Who is your target audience here exactly?

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cloud-hosted, secure, and private

Until homeomorphic encryption becomes a thing, cloud can’t be secure or private.

every exchange I’ve looked at holds the keys to your account

Exchanges, are not wallets. You’re supposed to move the coins out of the exchange for safekeeping. If you can’t, then it’s not a crypto exchange, it’s an ETF peddler.

how a user can actually buy bitcoin using Proton Wallet.

Wallets, are not exchanges. They can link to exchanges, like Metamask does, but their core function is to hold your keys.

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Until homeomorphic encryption becomes a thing, cloud can’t be secure or private.

Why do you need homeomorphic encryption? Isn’t client-side encryption good enough for most use cases?

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15 points

Funny how the free plan is not receiving any of the recently announced trash, making it more attractive than the paid options.

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