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i don’t understand, what’s stopping you from just not using it if you don’t want it? am i missing something?

edit: lol i was open to learning but nvm i guess

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thank you

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edit: lol i was open to learning but nvm i guess

and this is where your bullshit became bannable

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am i missing something?

Yes.

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My frustration at least is blended between 2 related thoughts that seem to generally be shared with a large group of people, if not the majority. 1) IMO crypto is BS. 2) Building on that base, they are diverting dev resources away from improving their existing systems or developing a new product with broader appeal to instead service said BS.

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How often do you switch email address and provider?

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i don’t understand, what’s stopping you from just not posting if you don’t have a contribution? am i missing something?

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i don’t understand, what’s stopping you from just not stepping in the broken glass I left on the floor? am i missing something?

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I haven’t always been actively enthused about some of the things Proton has decided to build out, but this may be the first time I’ve been legitimately disappointed.

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At this point I’m kind of glad I accidentally renewed my other VPN service and didn’t switch to Proton.

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Screams incoherently I just managed to switch my 2FA, passwords, and important email accounts to Proton. Then they go pull this bullshit over time! This is quite cursed; if it gets any worse, I don’t know what I’ll do. They were not shitty and the competition is so much worse.

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I was this close to switching to Proton… Dodged a bullet? I’m slowly degoogling, but I guess my new goal is to switch to a bunch of separate individual services to make it easier to switch just photos/email/calendar/drive/etc in the future when a service enshittifies.

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Yeah, that would be best. I still keep certain things separate because of enshittification can strike at any time! However, I don’t think that Proton will ever get that deep into the becoming shittier train; I could be 1000% wrong about it, as I’m aggressively huffing copium right now. I’ve pretty much made Google one of my throwaway accounts that stays isolated from anything important. So I can dump that terrible company at a moment’s notice without worry.

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endorsed by Proton’s llm guy - on his alt with 38 followers but not on his proton-linked account with 660 followers.

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So as someone who recently switched to proton before this BS, what’s good to switch to?

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Depends a lot on what you’re looking for. If you just want email, then you have a lot of options. Mailbox.org, Posteo, tuta, mailfence, fastmail, and runbox all come to mind. If you want a full gsuite replacement, ala proton unlimited, then your options are limited.

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IMO you gotta consider the email and calendar functions as inseparable, whereas the rest of the Google bundle can be teased apart. Privacy Guides is perhaps a bit too stingy with their recommendations, but at minimum they give you a lot of food for thought when they lay out their criteria:

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/ https://www.privacyguides.org/en/calendar/

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I host my calendar on Nextcloud and email (currently) through Protonmail. What makes them inseparable?

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Well, you know better than me, because I’ve never not used them together.

How do you, for example, invite people to things? Does your calendar just send an ICS attachment to Proton on SMTP? How do you RSVP for other people’s invites? Do you download the event to your calendar and separately respond in proton? Do you get updates in the calendar app about other people’s RSVP status, or just emails?

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