95 points

Who the fuck cares if they’re black white gay straight trans, just so the fucking job well. That’s all anyone wants.

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Who the fuck cares

Aww, you’ve never met a republican, huh?

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22 points

I have. And I’m telling them to get over it and not care. Even though I know they’re too mentally unstable to accept the feedback.

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8 points

We should stop selecting our candidates based on what Republicans think.

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9 points

The unfortunate reality is that there’s plenty of older democrats, “moderate democrats”, and independents that also have a negative perception of the LGBT community.

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-2 points

Who cares?

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as outlined above, republicans care an unhealthy amount

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21 points

Oooohhhh, a lot of people reeeaaaally care. They shouldn’t, but they really do.

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1 point

Yes, the ones with mental health issues.

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3 points

Their bigotry or mental health doesn’t make their votes worth less. You can cry about their sensibilities all you want but you need those votes to win regardless. Welcome to democracy.

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14 points

So… No Republicans. Got it.

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5 points

Madness

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1 point

Anybody that wants to know they have a representative that… represents them. Particularly for those that have never had someone of their class act as a representative.

There are several experiences/issues I wouldn’t have the first clue about good intentioned or not. To say ‘muh, just do the job well’ fails to appreciate that one cannot ‘do it well’ without intimately understanding under-represented constituents issues through… experience.

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Unfortunately, many or most people.

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Which is why the do-nothing Secretary of Transportation and McKinsey grad who got the job to repay a favor is the wrong choice.

If anything, it could be awful for LGBTQ+ people if the first representation in the White House is a corporatist small town mayor who keeps failing upwards.

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79 points

I actually really like buttigieg, but he’s wrong. A woman of color AND a gay man? I wish we lived in that country but we don’t live in that country.

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7 points

Yep, maybe after boomers and gen x have died off sure, but this country is still battling itself on lgbtq rights.

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11 points

I think this is a common misconception about how electability works in a first-past-the-post voting system. There is no benefit to going with a compromise position or reaching out to moderates. The number of people who can be persuaded to vote one way or another is miniscule. The number of people who can be persuaded to vote or not to vote is massive.

If people are excited or scared, they come out to vote. With disenfranchisement primarily focused on progressive and minority voters, there’s not much left to gain in scaring regressive conservatives more, they already vote at high numbers.

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5 points

While the last part about voting (being persuaded to vote or not vote) is true I think you overestimate the ven diagram of people who are both homophobic and racist. There are plenty who are one and not the other.

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75 points

Sure dude, but no offense, I’m hoping for the war veteran, swing state astronaut. Strategically he looks like the best choice IMO.

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23 points

I liked him too until I found out it would prompt a special election that Democrats could likely lose

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9 points

Can you elaborate?

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30 points

He’s a sitting senator of a red leaning state who won because of who he is. He has to vacate to run for VP, which is bad for keeping that seat. Losing the senate easily hamstrings any efforts a President Harris would bring, especially with GOP being the way they are.

Granted, that can be a problem for all swing state guys. Just isn’t as terrible for governors (although that can screw with other things, like voting rights in a given state).

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8 points

That resume is hard to top… isn’t it? I keep reading other candidates but always find myself going “that’s cool and all… but an astronaut?”

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4 points

He’s pretty moderate though. I’m not sure he’s really the best choice nationally - Harris won’t need help bringing the middle over, she needs to convince progressives to vote.

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5 points

No, actual progressives will vote against fascism, no question. Don’t let the trolls fool you. It’s the people in red areas with only modest critical thinking skills that need to be won over. Hammer home the fact that Kelly isn’t an absolute nutter. Paint that as the big difference between him and the republican ticket. And have the fact that he was in the military proudly displayed, and the fact that he was an astronaut can bring up the rear of their message.

People who love astronauts are already into science. It’s the classic conservatives/moderates that need to be won over.

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The progressives need motivation more than anything, and now they have it with Harris. It’s the wishy-washy groups - centrists, right of center, and undecided (how can you be undecided right now wtf?!) - that need coaxing.

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61 points

Honestly, I’d settle for a good one. Gay or not. Because a person’s sexuality and preferences are entirely irrelevant to one’s ability to be a fair and hard working representative.

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Let’s not pretend that people would refuse to vote for a gay candidate.

Whether we personally consider it an issue it has likely massively hurt their prospects as a politician.

Also representation is really important. Especially for younger people.

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I’ve never in my life voted for someone because they were a heterosexual. I vote based on their track record. When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals, we will be better off. We don’t need gender identity representation in our politics- we just need someone that will treat all people as equals- and enact policy that reflects this.

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Again you might not but plenty of people would. I would say it’s a pretty large crowd as well.

Also sexuality has nothing to do with gender.

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When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals,

This is not how international politics work. Can you think for a second of the optics on the world stage? The us isn’t some international flyover state equivalent like Iceland. If Harris steps down and Buttigeg needs to meet with someone in the Middle East how do you think that meeting is going to go over? The US is a big fish and this is like, unprecedented for a world power this huge.

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When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals, we will be better off.

(From the people who brought you “JD Vance fucks couches”.)

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it has likely massively hurt their prospects as a politician

Or, the complete opposite.

Do you think there’s any way Pete, the mayor of a town of 100,000 people, would have become a national presidential candidate if he wasn’t gay?

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Absolutely. Hes one of the best communicators in the party. Dude is a fantastic surrogate. Especially when you send him into unfriendly territory. I’m not going to say he’s the right pick for VP (I have some problems with his policy background), but acting like he’s only where he is because of his sexuality is fucking stupid.

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18 points

…that’s kinda what he’s saying. He’s saying there’s enough people who agree with this now that the political backlash to it will be a drop of hate in a huge bucket of sensible sentiments.

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10 points

Is america ready for a competent president? Will voters accept an adequate candidate? Its hard to say, without knowing first which divisive and inflammatory categories they can be sorted into.

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I love Buttigieg, would definitely vote for him, but this would make me anxious. We already have black woman running and there are a lot of people in swing states that have a problem with just that.

I just want to be sure that the fascist criminal will lose.

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But he’s a veteran. Would they vote for the cop + veteran ticket or the felon + coach fucker one?

Time to show their true colors.

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It didn’t work for John Kerry when he ran against a draft dodger. I guess being a combat vet wasn’t enough? Having been a cop would tip the balance?

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Well, we all know that the salute-the-troops, thank-you-for-your-service crowd are just playing pretend.

We all saw what happened when their nominee insulted a purple heart recipient and past POW, and everyone just cheered.

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Well they elected a football coach over a former DA. You know, a literal “law and order” type.

Never underestimate conservatives’ ability to put their biases over their alleged morals.

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GOP/Conservatives hate veterans. All of them do. They like to wave the flag and pretend, but they elected a literal draft dodging bitch who openly mocked Gold Star families. A big part of P2025 is the destruction of the VA and VA Compensation.

Don’t let any Republican voter act like they are pro-veteran or military.

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Conservatives hate veterans.

Trump even called them “losers” and “suckers” IIRC.

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The latter

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Couchfucker > futtbucker

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8 points

My take as well. We need to win this one. I love Pete, and would happily vote for him for president of he were the nominee, but a black woman and a gay man on the same ticket is just going to be too much for a lot of voters. Plus, I think they need to select someone from a purple state who can help bring in important votes.

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-2 points

Kamala Romney

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Making America pick between fascism or whether or not they would rather a futt bucker, is a risky spicy gamble

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