A senior official with the Dutch Olympic committee has insisted that a convicted child rapist in its beach volleyball team is not a paedophile, in an email seen by the Guardian.

A concerned British man who has lived in the Netherlands for more than a decade, wrote to the Dutch Olympic committee and called the inclusion of Steven van de Velde in the team “a stain on the Dutch national side”. In a reply the Dutch Olympic committee spokesperson wrote: “Steven is NOT a peadophile [sic]; you really don’t think that de Dutch NOC would send someone to Paris who IS a real risk? No, he isn’t a risk.”

There has been mounting public anger at the presence of the beach volleyball player Van de Velde, who was convicted of raping a 12-year-old British girl in 2016. Earlier this week the International Olympic Committee faced calls for an investigation into how a convicted child rapist has been allowed to compete at Paris 2024. The IOC has said the selection of athletes for the Games was the responsibility of individual committees.

There has been mounting public anger at the presence of the beach volleyball player Van de Velde, who was convicted of raping a 12-year-old British girl in 2016. Earlier this week the International Olympic Committee faced calls for an investigation into how a convicted child rapist has been allowed to compete at Paris 2024. The IOC has said the selection of athletes for the Games was the responsibility of individual committees.

205 points

The world has going immensely nuts;

  • Genocide seems okay by most of the presidents.
  • Calling for justice is a hate crime and gets you arrested.
  • Racism and Fascism on the rise.
  • Raping a 12 year old person seems to be okay, doesn’t get you labeled as a pedophile.
  • Calling out that Zionism is in fact bad gets you the “antisemitic” name.
  • Quoting Hitler seems to be okay
  • Saying that you want to erase and nuke a whole group/race seems to be okay.

I’m seriously worried for the future.

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All of those things happened in the past, too. Probably even more than now.

I think the difference, now, is that it gets called out a lot more. In the past, it happened quietly and people went along or pretended to not notice. Now, people are calling it out and the shitty people have to openly defend it.

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With regard to this specific issue, you don’t even have to go looking for cases of young women being discouraged from reporting rape and sexual assault allegations against promising young athletes, because “think how you could hurt his future prospects” – examples are so plentiful that you can’t help but find them if you spend any time reviewing sports news. It’s really only been in the last decade or so that anybody has seriously pushed back against the idea that Johnny Sportsball’s ability to score points for the local team is more important than the safety and bodily autonomy of women.

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You mean like the rapist Brock Allen Turner?

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It’s definitely a double edged sword though. The hatred/bad actors are more visible through the broader lens brought on by social media, but also those who would not have found support or like minded people now have echo chambers with others they can join

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History comes in waves. I fear for the next cycle.

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2 points

Up is down, right is wrong.

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fascism in a nutshell.

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Let’s briefly set aside the fact that she was 12.

He was convicted of raping another person… period. That alone should disqualify him from representing his country at the Olympics.

Now back to your regular scheduled world wide publicity for Steven van de Velde, who repeatedly raped a 12 year old girl.

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Yea, wtf is this shit? He’s a convicted rapist. The end.

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But apparently not a pedophile. Not sure how that works, I’m also unclear on why it’s even relevant.

If he’d murdered someone would that be better or worse?

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They just want to clarify that he’s not selective, he’d also rape adult women if given the opportunity.

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The Dutch wikipedia explains that according to research, 25% to 50% acts because of a sexual preference for minors.

The others only act because they see an easy opportunity to have sex, or worse, want to exploit them.

I guess that’s what he bases his statement on?

Just a bunch of downplaying stuff with definitions and nonsense talk in my opinion.

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Well actually, If you set aside her age it wouldn’t be rape at all, since it’s statutory rape. She technically consented and did things herself. But of course since she’s a child she can’t consent, she was manipulated by someone much older.

My point is her age is very important and should definitely not be set aside.

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She technically consented

He got her drunk… Not only she was too young to consent, he made her drunk this invalidating any chance for valid consent even if she was much older.

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They talked for a long time through messaging before hand and talked about having sex. Either way, she couldn’t consent she was just a child. Disgusting.

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Presumably did his time, but you have to let criminals who have completed their sentence rejoin society.

A child rapist is another story

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He was convicted in 2016, thats a pretty short sentence even for adult rape imo.

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Hey, he got her drunk first. It’s not like he did it for free!

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_van_de_Velde

Under a treaty between the Netherlands and UK, Van de Velde was transferred to the Netherlands to serve his sentence. The sentence was at that time adjusted in line with Dutch law, and the charge of rape was substituted for that of fornication.[11] After serving a year of his original four year sentence, he was released from prison.[8]

So basically the Dutch think it’s ok for a 19 year old to get a 12 year old drunk and rape her.

The victim would eventually go on to self-harm and once overdosed.

Some people are saying it ok because it was consensual, this doesn’t make it sound very consensual to me.

Wtf.

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Consensual? Kids cannot consent. Kids are confused, curious hormone bombs who are easily manipulated and tend to put a lot of trust in adults who sound like they know what they’re doing. That’s the entire point of why we place that responsibility on the adults, and not the kids who don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.

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“Some people are saying…”

Who Tyler… Who are you talking about here?

You can’t have consensual sex with a 12 year old.

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Further down in this thread. https://lemmy.ca/post/25818425/10643476

Also https://www.gbnews.com/sport/dutch-olympic-committee-defend-steven-van-de-velde-rape

De Telegraaf newspaper played down the conviction, insisting that “they had consensual sex” and that “sex with a 12-year-old girl is labelled as rape” in Britain, while in the Netherlands “punishment in this area is much milder”.

I agree with you.

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That comment isn’t saying it was consensual; it’s saying her age is what made it nonconsensual, so you can’t just ignore her age.

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So basically the Dutch think it’s ok for a 19 year old to get a 12 year old drunk and rape her.

No, he was put in prison for it. You can criticise the length of the sentence if you want, but phra as ING it like they let him off Scott free is misleading.

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Generally I believe in rehab but this case is seriously WTF. The dude’s lack of remorse is even bigger WTF. No one should be defending this monster.

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Is everyone here talking about Steven Van de Velde the child rapist and peadophile? I heard he only served 13 months for repeated raping a child who he encouraged to get the morning after pill. She self harms herself now due to the guilt. Is it that Steven Van de Velde, the child rapist you are talking about?

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I believe we are indeed talking about Steven van de Velde, convicted child rapist and paedophile.

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Oh, thanks for clarifying, I thought we were talking about Brock The Rapist Turner for a second.

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Pedophile or not, it doesn’t matter. He’s still a child rapist.

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Being a rapist doesn’t even need a qualifier, you’re a piece of shit regardless.

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