The decentralized web is growing

You people are delusional. You are living in a fantasy.

High five for those into fantasy!!

I agree. I think it’s just good that with all this shitstorm, a lot of the good users migrated to the Lemmy.

We don’t need 100% of the Reddit population here, if we just get like 10-20% we will have potential to become the long gone golden age of Reddit.

The shitshow reddit has become now , I believe most will be looking for an alternative !

Exactly. The users who have moved here are disproportionately commenters, power posters, and moderators from reddit. I was a top 1% poster on reddit, lots of OC, but I’ve essentially stopped participating there. I occasionally comment, but I don’t make posts on reddit anymore. If a significant fraction of power posters (and not just the reposters) and moderators migrate to lemmy, lemmy will have disproportionately good content, while the reddit experience will degrade further into reposts and poor moderation. I think lemmy already has disproportionately good posts and engagement, just still pretty small at the moment.

In theory I agree, but we need to get past the anti-Reddit circlejerk fast.

people often forget that reddit initially achieved network effect because a small number of high quality users left digg for being too captured by corporate interests. the rest took 10 years to play out, but inevitably when the mainstream follows these initial users, the platform dies and it is time for another migration. I think we’ve been ready for a while.

Yeah, I kinda agree. I like the niche, albiet small, community these decentralized platforms offer. TBH, I love the trade of brands not pointing their content firehoses in our direction. While I love the idea of more people using lemmy, for example, I worry about the inflection pointe where that changes and this place gets ruined.

The red trail is just the magic leftover after turning them into shit

Nah, the bloodstains on the floor are from the reaper’s scythe cutting them in their big toe.

Facebook is nowhere dead. Everyone I meet wants to chat via Messenger, small firms here don’t bother creating a website anymore, they create a facebook page (’ cause everyone’s there) and local/company communities use facebook groups to talk. Not to mention event hosts, they create fb events. If you are interested in topics that are liked globally, the fediverse is getting better. But if you are looking for a local community, you’ll rarely find any. The lemmy page of my country is basically dead, the sub however is thriving.

lol reddit is still kicking, people. Don’t count your chickens yet.

It’s a delusional circlejerk.

So is Facebook and Twitter. This meme is premature in triplicate.

Twitter, despite Elon’s best efforts, is not dead yet 😆

All while the fediverse still has low numbers.

I like the concept, but if your only selling point is “it’s like email, you can use any instance” it’s not going to be popular to most people.

I’m not disagreeing but it’s still kicking. My friend who is on reddit said it was weird for a couple days during the blackout but it’s back to normal now. He also wondered why I didn’t use the official app. Like it or not, most people are like him.

I can’t believe this. The official app is so bad, I am losing faith in humanity.

Even if you get rid of the ads (ReVanced manager is your friend) it still pushes weird content into your timeline. Like, you scroll and there is an interesting post that you want to comment on. Oops, posted 20 days ago. Why would you recommend that to me!?

Big mainstream subs are shit but they always were. Cool niche communities are the same.

mostly the same. I feel like even niche places get some of the annoying reddit mentality that has annoyed me for quite a while. There’s still the hivemind and circle jerky stuff in small places. It’s felt like less of that here, but also only a fraction of the people are on Lemmy so that will change when more people come.

For some of my niche subs the mods just quit

Agreed. Friends in my discord group still bring up reddit posts daily, usually in subs with games and memes.

Yeah, I think that’s because reddit just has the hugest communities for individual games and niche interests. There are some lemmy communities for some of the games I follow but there are like seven users in each of them. Lemmy is getting really good for broader topics like “games” or “technology” but isn’t quite there yet for more narrow interests like “Dolphin emulator” for example.

I remember Voat and numerous other attempts to abandon Reddit.

I really hope that this one sticks but it needs to be very robust (in terms of moderation, server capacity, user friendliness etc) if it is going to handle a large influx of users without breaking down.

Moreover, killing Youtube will be harder than killing any of these social media. Serving video content is very expensive.

The demands of video hosting is what makes me doubtful that decentralized YouTube could work.

It could work if everyone that used it was interested in decentralizing it, but that seems impossible from my perspective

Still kicking but…somehow not the same. It’s something I can’t quite explain. There’s just something different about it now. I had to look something up on Reddit a couple of days ago. It was the first time I’d been back since they killed all the third party apps. It reminded me of going back to a city I used to live but my friends were all gone and my favorite places to go had changed. So, while it was the same place, and there were plenty of people around, it seemed exhausted and forced.

I know exactly what you mean.

How do I downvote this?

Video is literally the data elephant in the room. I think we’ll need AI to assist in developing something that demanding in terms of bandwidth. Remember, Youtube just works. No one is going to move to a platform where a video takes 30-60 seconds to load a video and a half an hour to upload a video when a practically instant option exists.

And I may be in the minority here, but so far, Google has been the least nefarious tech giant to my eyes. They haven’t given me adequate reason to disavow them. I’m not saying they’re good, I’m just saying they’re not Musk Twitter, Zuck Meta, or the like. They don’t obfuscate the fact that they sell your data like Meta, and they even understand the value of open source software, rare for a publically traded capitalist corporation. This will probably change, greed rot is universal, and they do treat their creators like dogshit on YouTube. But I’d be shocked if it was reasonably replacable by distributed enthusiasts given current infrastructure and bandwidth pricing. Estimates have Youtube’s video data to be around 300 Petabytes, or 300,000 terabytes.

Really? I’d say Apple is the least nefarious. They sell products to customers, they do not sell customers’ attention.

Depends what you value I guess, Apple has set so many terrible precedents for closed systems and walled-gardens.

You’re not wrong, but those same walled gardens keep corporations OUT as much as they keep you IN.

If you like your gardener, no big deal. But if you want azaleas and the gardener prefers daisies, ur out of luck.

300 Petabytes is nothing. The Filecoin network alone has 20 EiB available. There must be more data than that on Youtube

Edit: Maybe there isn’t, but that would render the problem very easy

As far as I can tell Filecoin works by having clients pay to store files on people’s servers so there’s still a question of who is going to pay for it.

Users could have to pay 0.005$ for each 20min video each year. I don’t think that’s a problem

Least nefarious ≠ good. Alphabet is still a publicly traded corporation at heart, and they have a legal obligation to their shareholders to turn a profit by any means necessary.

Don’t forget that they got rid of their “Don’t be Evil” motto.

It’s weird that Evil Corporation whose critique is still valid is just not as shitty or simply flies under radar by modern standards. YouTube’s pipeline into conspiracies and demonitization are likely the last I’ve heard of them in negative light, and that’s just a tip of an iceberg. That’s like you can be evil without being cringe.

I’m watching over Freenet. It may solve this server resources problem hopefully.

Oh wow. I had no idea Freenet was going in this direction. Like IPFS, but better.

How is it better? The big issue with IPFS is fast content discovery. How does Locutus do here? Freenet used to be a resouce hog and dog slow.

Peertube already exist. If you have to upload a video to show someone on the internet it’s already more convenient than youtube as you don’t have to login and access with google accounts.