People often talk about swapping out plastic straws for other materials to help the ocean/fish and the environment, but they also complain about paper straws falling apart easily. Other alternatives that are slightly more sturdy like straws made of straw don’t seem very common.

But do we even need straws? My first reaction was that any liquid can be drunk directly from the vessel it’s in, and straws just add another level of convenience. If we don’t want to use plastic straws and the alternatives mostly suck (actually all straws suck 🤓), why not just ditch straws entirely?

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There are people who have disabilities that prevent or make it hard to drink without a straw, for example, they have shaky hands and would spill their drink otherwise.

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This is how we end up paying for straws as medical devices. As soon as you make it a niche item the people who really need it are screwed

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It’s a simple metal tube (reusable). Just because it’s niche doesn’t mean it’ll cost a bomb.

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Straws would still be cheap, but also medical devices should be free anyways

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I want to add that the convenience factor they give to non-disabled people really helps the life-necessity factor for disabled people. Economy of scale helps a lot. Someone who needs straws to live can go to any grocery or convenience store and buy dozens or hundreds of the things for dirt cheap because the disabled people aren’t the only ones buying them, and that’s a good thing.

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Or, they could buy one reusable metal one to last a lifetime.

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That metal straw could end up impaling their brain though.

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Aren’t reusable straws difficult to sanitize? I’ve always wondered

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Or after you go to the dentist yourself! Granted you can likely survive without drinking room temperature anything because your gums/terth are sore for a bit, but disabled people cannot.

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Straws are necessary to some people with mobility issues. It’s important to rember that not everyone can do what you can do.

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But that’s a typical strawman argument. The straw ban laws have exception for medical equipement, and unfortunately some place found workaround like paper straw or pasta straw. But an able-bodied adult doesn’t really need a straw to drink, getting one with a drink is even an annoyance.

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This is just a typical strawban argument.

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That’s not really relevant to the question being asked and the answer you’re replying to though. OP said straws should just stop existing because it’s only a convenience, and this counterpoint was that there are people who NEED straws, not as convenience but as necessity.

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Have you ever heard of children?

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Bendy straws were originally medical equipment and are still the only way for some people to be able to drink without spilling or having someone spill on them. For instance my husband’s a quad. Without a bendy straw, I have to tip the cup into his mouth without being able to see clearly either the level of the liquid or the angle of the cup to his mouth, especially the far side. He can’t tell me because drinking, nor move his head or hands to signal or correct me. A straight straw is almost impossible because he can’t tilt his head down to drink. With the bendy straws his face is straight and as long as the straw is between his lips he can drink at his own pace. But those rubbery straws are too thick, he can’t suck that hard. And we’ve never found a metal one that’s bent at the right angle. So we’re sticking to plastic, just have to make it up in other areas. Now, why they’re not made with recycled plastic, I don’t know.

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Many disabled people are unable to drink without straws.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/07/11/627773979/why-people-with-disabilities-want-bans-on-plastic-straws-to-be-more-flexible

On social media, many people have responded to claims that people with disabilities need plastic straws by asking what people did before plastic straws were invented. “They aspirated liquid in their lungs, developed pneumonia and died,” says Shaun Bickley, co-chair of the Seattle Commission for People with DisAbilities, a volunteer organization that’s supposed to advise the city council or agencies on disabilities issues.

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for some reason I always love those dark answers to „what did people do before X?“

Sometimes we actually help people, improve lifes

edit: typo

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Chronically ill person checking in to mention people with my autoimmune disorder died a slow painful death in the past or ate pig thyroid. And people with endometriosis just spent their days in intense agony (some/many still do because current medical treatment doesn’t work for them).

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There’s a couple of reasons straws might be convenient or even necessary:

  • You have a disability that causes movement problems like shaking
  • Limited neck/shoulder/arm mobility or a swollen lip (The latter makes it hard to get a proper seal)
  • You wear lipstick or other makeup that could get washed away
  • Your edibles were too strong
  • You can build containers that don’t spill when they fall over

(Edit: Add text at the beginning instead of just throwing a list out there)

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Your edibles were too strong

A mistake easily avoidable. This only happens if you say “these edibles ain’t shit” 45 minutes after taking them.

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