In 50 years this quote will be in textbooks and students will wonder how people nowadays could not see the signs
Well it’ll either be in the chapter:
How Trump Saved America, The South Has Risen
Or
Democracy Survived, How America Repelled a Fascist
Well, there’s Hitler who did exactly the same: publish a book, try not one but several coups, still get named chancelier legally. In France we like them too: we have 2 Napoléon who did the same thing. It almost happened another time in 1958, but the man they put in power was reasonable for once.
If you’re a leftist in the US and you want to really scare the shit out of conservatives, get a gun and learn how to use it.
If they ever manage to take away our voting rights, they’re not gonna give them back just cause we asked nicely.
A-ha but if I call out a contradiction in their opinions surely they will fold.
Just let them gain power for a short time and people will see their true face and not vote for them again. Worked in Germany. The NSDAP never got a majority of votes.
And allow them to get their message out on every possible platform all the time. This will not normalize hate speech and recruit members at all but will make people will see they are evil and ignore at them until they evaporate.
Doesn’t work. I have several. And I have a concealed carry. A conservative knowing these things has never been scared. They use it as an excuse to pull out theirs because they think like children and have to show and tell. Even if it’s in a public place, like the damn corner of a courthouse. Which is not the kind of place a responsible adult should ever reveal a weapon.
I have a concealed curry, in case me wife eats it
You’re a fucking coward and would run as soon as you heard a gunshot, just like every gun-owning coward in the US 😂
Running is a very good strategy. In non-stand your ground states if you have the opportunity to run you have a legal obligation to. It means you aren’t in immediate danger. In a stand your ground state you have the option to run. But if the person shooting isn’t visible then sneaking around with a gun trying to find them is how a good-guy with a gun ends up dead like John Hurley.
Part of being a responsible gun owner is knowing when to run.
Also, learn how to fly drones if you can, if (when?) things go shit-fan-hitting globally, that seems like a really useful skill to have in your group, considering how the face of warfare looks at the moment.
With a quick reminder: If you in any way can, don’t do this solo, connect with others, don’t get arrogant about it, either. The fascist preppers have a huge weakness in their narcissistic individualist “I am better than the sheep” prepping style. Being able to actually support and organise a community in the potentially coming chaos is important.
It makes me so mad when people pretend that we shouldn’t take this seriously. Aaaand even if he hadn’t already promised to become a fascist dictator, taking the shit he says seriously in that scenario would still be better than not taking it seriously in the scenerio where he has already promised to become a fascist dictator, which is the scenario we are living.
Saying the quiet part out loud…
seriously it’s like those newspapers that reported the assassination of archduke franz ferdinand as good for global peace
Or just the numerous attempts against Hitler, including one the year before he took power.
I watched the video itself. He barely mentioned it and it pretty obviously was one of his on-the-spot incoherent ramblings that he was just trying to form into a somewhat coherent thought. But the media and memes have been milking it for 3 days straight. That was a 1-day milk, 2-day at most. I’m sure he has done something moronic more recently, let’s move on.
Why would we move on from his admitting to what we all know, his goal is the end of our Republic.
What the hell are you talking about, we should NOT move on, that’s been the problem all along.
“Sure, there’s a whole written plan about this you can read for yourself on the internet, but he barely mentioned that he has a plan to become a dictator. It doesn’t really mean you should care.” - that asshole, probably
Exactly, we all already know this. Democrats and those who weren’t gonna vote for him anyway already know this and it won’t affect their vote. Republicans and those who were gonna vote for him really hope he’s a dictator and are glad to hear this. Will continue to vote for him.
Him accidentally stumbling into sorta saying it openly doesn’t change anything.
You underestimate how many ignorant non-voters can make or break any election. We need to bring out the roots and the mycelium to guarantee the fascists lose. If we don’t win by a wide enough margin, some state legislatures might succeed in overturning close races. They will try to throw out the will of the people of there’s enough ambiguity. They failed in 2020, but the last 4 years have been dedicated to making it possible. We need enough swing states to prevent the steal they projected onto us.
No amount of fear or concern is unwarranted. There is no overblowing the threat. We need to scream and yell for our fucking lives, or there will be no tomorrow for many. I will not pretend that your bullshit about “moving on” has any reasonable place in the conversation. We cannot look away from the monster charging us. If we lose concentration, people will die.
Yeah man, a presidential candidate with a real chance of winning is telling his base that he’ll get rid of elections as president, and this is something that his biggest wealthiest supporters actually want him to do. Multibillion dollar right-wing think tanks that work directly with him are openly discussing how the “Democratic experiment” has failed, and that Washington should be “burned to save America”.
He checks off just about every other box on the fascism checklist too, including genocide…
But I would hate to overreact, so I’ll just pretend it didn’t happen.
/s
Relax, everybody, he only talks about being a dictator because he has brain worms!
Up the shut fuck.
Why is Lemmy so rich in people hell-bent on interpreting comments in the worst possible light, then make assumptions about the author based on that interpretation of a single comment? Oh and then proceed to be rude, in one shape or form.
Do better, people. Don’t be jerks.
Could the response be based on the things you wrote? No, surely it’s everyone else who’s wrong.
My guy. Your comment explicitly says “let’s move on” from mentioning that The Idiot is screaming the quiet part, not for the first time. Your dismissive minimization of this event is that he’s just rambling incoherently. About fascism. About the fascism he plans to do. After the failed coup d’etat, and the repeated efforts to prevent, ignore, or overturn the previous election. Just locker-room braggadocio, right?
Maybe - maybe! - people are still talking about it, after a whole seventy-two hours, because it’s FUCKING TERRIFYING.
Am I right that the most charitable possible interpretation is that he only needs four more years to permanently fix the country, and then he’ll leave office, and the country will be so great forever that it’d be OK not to vote - because the country is so perfect and beautiful?
It’s a stupid thing to say given the horrible horrible possible other interpretation (dictator for life). But I wonder what his buddies and apologists would claim he meant.
No, my actual interpretation is explained in another response. I’m still very confused how people think that I’m in any way pro-Trump, while I called him moronic in the same comment. And this was your “most charitable” interpretation?
Tl;dr: I was taking about media blowing it out of proportion based on how he said it, causing desensitization.
Fair point. You seemed to have the most nuanced response in the thread, so offering too little context I jumped into a question for you about what he could have actually meant if not “I’ll be a dictator forever”. And indeed, I found some apologists responding to criticism, and they did sound like they took what I imagined was the most charitable interpretation of what the ex-president said.
Were I in the media, I’d try to run a headline that squashed in that felon president said something shocking libs who interpreted dictator rhetoric while proponents only heard boasting or positive thinking.
