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Not to be a clit…but why don;t they take in the Palestinians to begin with?

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Last time someone took in a lot of Palestinians en masse resulted in a civil war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

It’s more complex than that, but usually that’s why a lot of countries don’t want to help that way.

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LMAO I am currently reading the book about them and the wiki page. Have not finished yet but will tell you when I finish both.

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28 points

You mean assist with Israel’s ethnic cleansing?

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No I mean the US or the useless UN come in with nerses or doctors. I would love to . No like everyone I wish they would end it by now but I get the comeback after octorber… But kind of seems like they want a war on two front where they can defeat Hamas…and Hezbollah to some exxtest .

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Why would the US send doctors? They’re actively trying to kill the Palestinians? The UN has sent doctors and nurses, US/Israel has been murdering them. They’ve destroyed most of the hospitals.

but I get the comeback after octorber…

You get genocide?

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Turkey does not have a good track record supporting oppressed minorities:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey

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8 points

Don’t forget the Armenians

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They would only do that if they got money in return. They would be in camps as well.

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Then why does the middle east care about them? I am 40 years old and in my life have never seen or heard of a country that would accept them.

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I think it’s 90% performative and 10% “we want to do something but don’t have the resources”. I imagine Palestine is a really hot topic among Muslim-majority countries, and as such ignoring Palestine would be a bit like if the US suddenly stopped pretending to care caring about FreedomTM.

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Why doesn’t the USA or Europe just accept the Jews and let the Palestinians have the land?

Jordan especially has a ton of Palestinians. More than half of Palestinians already live outside of Palestine.

Your question actually boils down to, why don’t they take all the Palestinians so Israel can have the land?

And the answer is: they don’t want to be complicit in ethnic cleansing.

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Because of the lack of right of return.
That, and once Turkey accepts them, then what? It’s a net negative for Turkey. More refugee mouths to feed that they can’t patriate as citizens. And ones that can’t return to where they’re from.

I’m saying this as a Palestinian who grew up outside of Palestine, none of us have any right of return. That goes for all who leave now too.

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Holy shit you mind I do a I do a request on https://lemmy.world/c/amarequests to ask you a bunch of questions if you are okay with it?

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36 points

I think I’ll pass for now.

I’m exhausted enough having to explain things to my friends and educate them, combatting western media narratives in real time, let alone strangers on the internet.

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Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !amarequests@lemmy.world

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It’d be political suicide. A very justified one, I might add. Turkey has already taken on WAAAY too many refugees over the last years, and the consequences have become pretty bad. It’s a hot topic right now. Even his supporters are sick of his immigration policies, which he’s been using as a way to import voters by fast tracking them to full citizenship.

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24 points

Because Palestine is their home.

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7 points

Have to bump it up a notch. The ongoing war headlines were getting kind of stale.

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Sounds based but likely not more than empty words.

Though he did put a nice boycott on israel after a few months of Genocide.

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The same Turkey that continues to attack and slaughter the Kurds of Rojava unprompted? That Turkey?

Bit hypocritical, eh?

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Obviously any and all outside support for either is completely due to complex and additional ulterior motives… but even knowing that, I’m sick of my taxes being used like they are and I find myself in agreement with this fucker…

What moment did we stray from a reasonable timeline

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Totally with you here.

How did I end up on a timeline where I am vibing with Erdogan.

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It was never a reasonable timeline. Modern history is essentially the present population waking up to the crimes of past (and present) generations, including their direct ancestors.

Israel was created by colonial states committing colonial-minded crimes, during the near-total collapse of colonialism immediately following WW2. England had assumed control of “Mandatory Palestine” after the Ottoman Empire fell with WW1. Through the League of Nations — dominated by colonial powers, like the UN is to this day — they essentially annexed land they had no legitimate ownership of, denying the population of Palestine their basic human rights to democracy and self determination, and gifted it to millions of refugees who were not even born in that location, and held no reasonable claim to that land (beyond ancestry from hundreds/thousands of years ago, that never made up more than a minority of the people who lived there).

It would make more sense, and be more logically and legally justifiable, to give the USA, Canada, and Australia to their indigenous populations in 2024 — who 100% owned those lands up until the last few hundred years — than to give Palestine to the Jewish population in 1946.

Similar crimes happened in South East Asia and Africa post-WW2. For example France trying to militarily reclaim Laos and Vietnam (backed by the USA). Both the Vietnam war and Cambodian genocide may have never occurred if those countries were allowed to implement legitimate democracy.

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