25 points

ROFL!! Apparently the folks complaining haven’t actually ever listened to Green Day. Though the severed Trump head at the concert was probably a bit much.

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It was a mask, “severed trump head” is an extreme and inaccurate description.

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4 points

Maybe they’re confusing the mask with the Kathy Griffin photo from years back?

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16 points

maga chuds live on extreme and inaccurate descriptions.

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8 points

I went to a green day concert before trump was even president and they had the crowd cheering that line, its not new. They were awesome by the way.

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5 points

A “severed head”? Jeez, where are these people’s minds at?

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60 points

So Green Day does the most Green Day thing ever and the MAGA crowd loses their minds. Who are the snowflakes again?

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2 points

Oh no

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145 points

Punk band upsets establishment. News at 11.

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27 points

I don’t man, I don’t consider them punk punk but pop punk, but still doesn’t change your statement.

I’m still surprised punk hasn’t made a come back. We are dying of old age and this is the right environment for punk to flourish.

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55 points

The least punk thing is to gatekeep the genre.

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4 points

Classifying them pop rock would be gatekeeping. I still classified them within the punk genre and still agreed with their statement of punk.

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classifying in genres is by definition gatekeeping. somewhere you have to draw a line between punk and everything else, otherwise the term punk loses all meaning.

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3 points

People have been saying Green Day aren’t punk since Dookie. That’s always been a thing with punk. Once you leave the underground clubs of NYC, you’re pop.

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1 point

The revolution will not be televised. It’s out there but there’s no money behind having them go big anymore.

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9 points

I grew up in (what I perceive as) the heyday of punk, but mostly ignored it. Lately I’ve been tempted to take a closer look at some of those old punk bands I always heard about back in the day.

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4 points

I would recommend listening to some.

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9 points

Those kids were right. Not so much as adults anymore some of them. John Lydon in particular having become a bit of a disappointment. But it’s still a fun era and easy to listen through. Seeing as it really encompassed about a 5 to 6 year span.

Post Punk/ dance Punk is having a bit of a Resurgence again though. Lots of good new stuff coming out. Though not as much political necessarily.

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6 points

At least they have been pretty consistent in their lean.

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1 point

That’s true.

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Not punk but industrial. Though KMFDM has always been political. But there’s a few tracks on the new album that are far less subtle than usual.

Also forgot to point out that punk was a product of its time. And it’s environment. Very much a DIY ethic. Which lent to its sound. DIY today is going to sound a lot different. Unless people are going to ape the sound without any of the influence.

Even many of the iconic punkers got tired of it and moved on when new things became available. As mentioned John Lyden AKA Johnny rotten. Left the pistols for Public Image limited. Last I heard Jell-O was still trying to get into California politics?

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9 points

Plus Lydon is a Right-Winger now.

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TL;Dr: Long, rambling old man shit incoming.

You’re absolutely right. The DIY landscape is so incredibly different. Now you can get an electric guitar with reasonable QC and an amp with modeling and a hundred presets that plugs directly into your computer to record. There’s loads of free lessons online that show people how to play instruments. There are tabs for almost every song put out by any semi-popular artist so you don’t have to try to reverse engineer them anymore. There are backing tracks. We didn’t have any of that shit. We had a solid state amp with two channels, one of which was poorly distorted.

And I’m here for it. It’s not my dad’s punk. It’s not my punk and pop punk. It belongs to new people and I’m excited for them to look back at it the way I look back at the bands that excited me when I was a kid. They’ll have new genres built upon the shoulders of the ones I listened to, which stood on the shoulders of those that came before.

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2 points

Lyden did some rather deadpan adverts for Country Life a few years back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzQsvxtLTM

And honestly? I think it was pretty funny.

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4 points

Check out Desaparecidos, side project of Conor Oberst. They have 2 albums, one in 2002, one in 2015, both just as relevant today.

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The day Trump was elected I was excited for a new wave of anti-government human-rights protest music. The best we got was “This Is America”.

Edit: I appreciate the few examples you’ve offered but I was thinking of the movements of the 60s and 80s. It wasn’t just the hippie peace love anti war music or rap music, it was poetry, fiction, movies, documentaries. It was the culture around the people rising up to protest their government. Now any shmoe can tweet at the president.

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4 points

Oh shit! How could I forget the best of the best when it comes to leftist punk: Propagandhi! "Less Talk More Rock and Today’s Empires, Tomorrow’s Ashes are essential listening. I’m hella dating myself with these albums, the Adderall has kicked in way too late I guess

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3 points

NOFX atleast had “The War On Errorism” during the W years, but it was mostly whelming

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Check out Poor Man’s Poison and, if you’re a rap fan, Cal Scruby has some pretty on-topic pieces (“Captain America” comes to mind as an explicit example).

But seriously, check out Poor Man’s Poison, he encapsulates almost everything that I’m feeling.

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3 points

Dead milkmen made a comeback.

https://youtu.be/QlcmIWGogkw

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I’m down with you being all in on the statement but I have a question for you.

What would you consider Punk in 1990 or even 94?

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Like coming out in those years or still playing during those years?

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