Just wondered what people are using for their password management.
I’m currently using 1Password on a family subscription for both password management and 2FA (and then Authy for the 1Password 2FA). But I’m seeing a lot more posters — particularly since joining Lemmy — championing BitWarden (either cloud or self hosted) and Raivo OTP as a cheaper, almost-as-functional alternative.
So is it worth the switch? Will I lose out on anything by doing so?
I’m currently running BitWarden with a free account to see if I can live with it. But I must admit, 1Password is a staple app for me and one that I would say is priceless to my workflow and setup.
Just interested in your thoughts and trying to stimulate conversation!
Bitwarden is open source (https://github.com/bitwarden) and was audited by privacytools.io, so I’m in team bitwarden !
It is perfectly integrated with all my devices and browsers, and it’s free to use.
Same. I even self-host it now, no getting caught up in massive data breaches for me!
FYI privacytools[.]io has long been commandeered by the BDFL who apparently accepts—how do i put this impartially?—financial incentives for supporting specific software.
Privacyguides.org is the version maintained by the original privacytools team that have been doing the lion’s share of the work since 2019
There’s a huge drama between privacytools and privacyguide, I’m not sure anyone here can tell what happened internally after reading both side of the story.
Yes privacy tools accept sponsoring but it should be transparent about it ? It was the case before, I’m not using the site anymore so idk if things have changed in a bad way I’m sorry I promoted it.
Question for you since you mentioned how it’s integrated with all your devices. I currently do not use a PW manager (I know, shame on me). Let’s say I get bitwarden, do I need to go back and change every password on every website to the bitwarden-generated password?
It just seems like I’m “In too deep” in a way where it’ll be a pain in the ass to set up.
If you have stored your credentials in your browser, you can export them to Bitwarden. It’s fairly easy and will save you a lot of time.
The point of using Bitwarden (or any password manager) is that you have no idea what your password is. From a security pov you « should » update your credentials but no need to rush, one step a time 👍🏼
I started using bitwarden half a year ago and this is what I did. But once again moved, I Figured it worth nothing if I have weak and shared passwords across apps and sites. so eagrly I changed all the password on accounts that hold my financing details (bank, google, PayPal, etc…) and then lazily, every time I had to go to a site like lemmy for instance I changed it on the way
Are you forced to? No. Should you anyway? Yes. I did what @else@lemmy.fmhy.ml said: just change them when you login. That way it doesn’t feel like a grand undertaking, and you still end up with extremely secure passwords that you don’t have to remember.
Also, i recommend generating your master password. If my senior mom staring down the barrel of alzheimers can remember a 12-digit string of random characters (after emptying out all the space wasted by a few dozen passwords), you can too
You can just add your current passwords to bitwarden, no need to change any passwords if you don’t want. It actually takes less effort than you might think. Just add your username and password each time you need to login to something and everything will be added pretty quickly.
I felt the same as you. Here’s how I managed to deal with my piles of accounts: get BitWarden set up, and pick a few main accounts to enter in and generate new passwords for. Delete your login data and cookies from your browser, then add accounts to BitWarden and generate new passwords as you come to need them. That way it’s one at a time not all at once. Made it manageable for me! (BitWarden even prompts you if you’d like to save a login if it’s never seen it before)
Another vote for Bitwarden
Ive used both, Bitwarden feels more mature plus it’s open source. But 1Password is probably more user friendly for less tech savvy people.
Thanks. I’m tech savvy so that’s not a problem. Just always used 1Password based on recommendations. More than happy to go open source, and 1Password 8 feels like a step backwards from 1Password 7.
Just out of curiosity, why exactly is it a step back? I’ve heard this comment several times but, having only used 1Password 8 (which I quite like), I have nothing to compare it to.
Because it’s now an Electron app on macOS and — in my personal view — Electron apps suck. Much prefer native apps.
Functionality-wise it’s the same, but just doesn’t feel as nice to use, if that makes sense.
Bitwarden.
I used to have 1PW, but their browser plugin just completely stopped working for me (and a lot of others).
Then I switched to BW. It has so much better UI, plugins and apps. Oh and it’s cheaper.
And if you want, you can host it yourself
I do think 1Password is a bit more polished than Bitwarden, and auto-fills more reliably for me (depending on the website, of course). I use 1Password for work, but choose Bitwarden for personal use because I value an open-source solution that I COULD self-host if I wanted to. I don’t self-host, because I’m lazy, but I COULD if I wanted to. It’s also a very cheap family plan compared to 1Password, I’m still trying to convince all my old people to use a damn password manager! But one could argue that using 1Password’s more polished interface instead of Bitwarden might make my life easier…
Haha I hear you re: the old people. My parents use a notepad, and they scribble out old passwords and write down the new ones. It’s beyond archaic. And my dad has dementia which is just a recipe for disaster.
I’ve added them to my 1Password family and setup a separate vault for them to use, and I have a few of their key passwords shared with my vault in case they lock themselves out of important accounts.
But I’m sure if I did decide to switch to Bitwarden I could move them over pretty easily.
My mom took to it pretty easily, but then again, someone changed her Amazon password and it took ages for her to convince Amazon to unlock her account, so she was pretty motivated to take steps to prevent something like that from happening again.
Yeah that’s my experience as well, it takes an event like that to scare them into taking password management seriously. I guess I’ll just have to wait until my various olds have all been hacked or had their identities stolen, and THEN maybe they’ll let me sign them up for Bitwarden. Eyeroll.
I haven’t had a problem with auto fill. Especially once you regularly use their default ctrl+shift+L to autofill. It may also be worth noting that some custom fields, if you make the name the exact same as the field, it will include that in the autofill. One of the sites I use has a company ID, and it autofills that too.
