ofc I imediatly upgraded it from winxp to gnu/linux
I’m new to Linux; what’s with the ThinkPad hype?
They generally have really great linux support for all of their hardware (touchpads, fingerprint readers, etc.), and provide bios updates via fwdup. They are also just nice laptops.
Yeah back when it was IBM before they sold off to Lenovo. Back when their biggest selling point was their priority was keeping you up & running and getting work done. Nowadays nearly all the products are made with the priority “So, how do we design this so the user will have to pay for it multiple times?”
They’re reliable, good quality, have amazing keyboards, and work well with Linux (some even support Libreboot).
They screwed everything after 2011. The X220 and the T420 are two really good devices.
x230 with x220 keyboard also is pretty nice - but unfortunately no longer suitable as main notebook. As nothing useful came out of lenovo after that, others are even worse, nobody has a decent trackpoint and sensible amount of RAM only exist for macs I ended up with one of those for work few months ago.
Idk my T460 is fine on arch. I honestly feel like the ThinkBooks are the nasty ones and even the newer thinkpads are alright.
Years after using one for work, I still cannot get used to having Ctrl not being the leftmost key.
It’s a hype for very old, repairable laptops. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, if you want a repairable laptop go for a Framework
you can’t get a framework for 20€ on ebay tho + old thinkpads (older laptops in general) are just way robuster and have better build quality in general
Old laptops are pure suffering. I’d much rather pay the price for a more recent one
ThinkPads are business machines and those are extremely repairable compared to consumer machines. Even my shitty Dell precision has instructions on how to disassemble it etched onto the mainboard. And since business laptops get dumped after a few years of relatively light use (many are de facto stationary), you can get pretty good machines for very cheap.
ThinkPads are just very popular, because they are consistently pretty good and don’t stand in your way softwarewise, which isn’t always true for Dell or HP machines.
makes me think of the good ol’t times when the air was cleaner, roads were safer and our bosses used to pay us in Thinkpads, not this “fiat money” nonsense.
Very cool. I love those IBM Thinkpads. Fuck lenovo
the older lenovo models aren’t bad, but the shit they pump out recently is well, shit
They had a Chinese back door in the firmware. Don’t know if that’s still the case. https://www.techworm.net/2015/08/lenovo-pcs-and-laptops-seem-to-have-a-bios-level-backdoor.html They’ve had several major (intentional) security flaws over the years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo They had a modified UEFI that allows insecure execution of EXEs. The Lenovo laptops given to US military in Iraq had keyloggers that sent all inputs back to China.
I thought Lenovo was two different brands, one consumer (terrible) and one corporate (decent). Is that no longer true?
Lenovo makes consumer crap with their own brand and they have Think -line of products from the big blue and the latter is pretty much comparable to all the other big players (dell, hp, fujitsu…) on desktop/laptop market. Each have their own annoyances and fuckups and in general if you ask opinion from 3 IT professionals on which brand to buy you’ll get 4-6 answers.
Personally if I’m looking for a laptop I’ll go to pre-leased and refurbished thinkpad. I currently have T465 and for wife I got pretty decent Tsomething from the office for peanuts.
Still rings true a little, their quality is far better than their competitors though. I’ve had a lot less issues with the functionality of lenovo laptops over the crap acer or asus or dell produce.
It kinda became muddled around the X1 Carbon when they decided that thin chasis = better, and then started cutting features
I wish someone randomly gifted me a thinkpad as well
I mean, work in a tech field and have good relations with people who manage hardware, you’ll get to keep some that goes to garbage then, you’ll be surprised how much fairly recent hardware is thrown out by companies
