I’m seeing two posts from the mods that are sneerworthy content that aren’t meta-posts announcing the de-sunsetting of r/sneerclub. I just wanna know what’s up.
FWIW, I will stay here and probably won’t participate in the subreddit out of laziness.
i have a reading account for when i need to read reddit via logged-in account, so i went and asked.
ETA-1: and got banned for asking.
ETA-2: the subreddit’s description still has “sub moved to https://awful.systems” in the old view.
thread closed by some guy called “giziti”?
Looks like he was a mod as recently as a year ago, but doesn’t know what’s up either. Seems weirdly hostile to us, though.
not only the thread is closed, i was banned for asking that question:
transcript follows
Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in r/SneerClub because you broke this community’s rules. You won’t be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it.
Note from the moderators:
There, the sub is dead again (for you).
If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team by replying to this message.
Very glad to see the sub being run exactly as it was always supposed to be.
Giziti was made a mod to take pressure off the modteam, along with David Gerard (who also founded this place). The inference you’re drawing that they’re hostile seems wrong: it’s targeted not at this place but at people using the existence of this place to spam fediverse garble on the subreddit, demanding new rules to link to the fediverse(!)
the official word on our end is: no idea! we’re monitoring @mawhrin@awful.systems’s post over there with interest.
in a typical reddit fashion the post is getting downvotes despite just asking the obvious question.
I’m a bit weirded out that new posts on a year dead subreddit suddenly get ~50-100 upvotes
to be honest, I’m getting a weird vibe off the resurrected /r/SneerClub in general. that might just be me though
“Why, for fuck’s sake?”, as an illucutionary act, seems to do a lot more than simply “asking the obvious question”
But it is, indeed, in typical reddit fashion to omit that sort of thing from one’s own complaint about the response one got to one’s provocation, notwithstanding the traditional SneerClub response to user’s complaints, which is of course “if you want to leave, but can’t, we can help with that”
so the official reply is that mod got bored, and also was asked to re-open. which is, of course, fine.
and to be clear
- i didn’t think there is any conspiracy, that would be ridiculous,
- if we subscribe to the idea that a community is owned, not stewarded, by mods, it’s perfectly fine to do with the community whatever the mods want, without the need of them being accountable to anyone else,
- i do think that reopening the sub after closing it in protest is mostly sad,
- and a very small and rather insignificant footnote to a more general discussion on (f)utility of using master’s tools to bring down the master’s house.
I have often thought about just nuking most of my reddit posts and have not done so because I’m easily distracted. So I also feel like the latter.
Instead of nuking it, it would be better for the fediverse if you backlinked your favorite fediverse instance in all of your comments. It’s your content, you wrote it, you own the license to it. It would seem absurd if YouTube made a rule that stated video creators couldn’t talk about the merch they sell or their company association. Though, some subreddits might make the decision to censor some of your comments.
This tool is easy to use to edit all comments. It doesn’t provide the ability to add a signature to all comments though, and only allows you to fully edit a comment.
That is not something I would prob do, as I think that is a little bit annoying and spammy. (and I don’t like to do things I don’t like myself while leaning on ‘technically there is no rule against it’. It would also be annoying in a few old subreddits which I used to post in which have nothing to do with all of this (and I don’t want to annoy them), so I would to have put more work into whitelisting/blacklisting the various subs. But still thanks, somebody else might want to use it.
So far I have mostly resorted to manually deleting a few posts every now and then so far. (And the few times I still use it nowadays, a few posts per month, I tend to delete the posts eventually already).
I’m also not sure im interesting enough as a poster for people to actually follow me, or that people actually care that much. Tried before the restart to every now and then point towards this instance and I found that process annoying. (So this also means a large percentage of the people now left in sneerclub will be the worst, so it might finally morph into the boogyman the Rationalists always made it out to be).
I just hate reddit.
I think it’s just a combination of seeming genuine and not appearing to sell something. Like if you had a conversation with someone on reddit, and they were looking at their past comments with you, and then saw that you had modified them to include “If you found my content useful, I’ve left reddit because I don’t agree with reddit’s decisions. I’m now located in the fediverse. I’ve left this content available, but I don’t plan on using reddit.”
Though, I do think something appearing as spam is bad and can be counterproductive, so maybe I need to think about it more.
(So this also means a large percentage of the people now left in sneerclub will be the worst, so it might finally morph into the boogyman the Rationalists always made it out to be).
Some people seem to be genuinely happy it’s back, but that could just be the honeymoon phase, so let’s see. I might even post there now and then since I still use my Reddit account because I stuck around thanks to discoverability in the Fediverse being just awful which means I haven’t found a good replacement for a bunch of communities I like.
I am not much of a Reddit muckraker. I checked out the posts from the mods I didn’t recognise. The longtime mod Son_of_Sophroniscus appears to now be alt-right? Other than that, I still can’t make heads or tails of any of it.
I would have thought anyone who regularly posted on the sub in the last 7 years or so would be well aware that there were effectively two active moderators, only one of whom - the founder and head mod /u/completely-ineffable - is still on reddit, and who made the first new post (being “The EA Case for Trump”)
Two further moderators were added shortly before the AI reddit fuckaround which spawned this place, with one of them being David Gerard (who formally spawned this place)
A conclusion I am genuinely surprised to see nobody drawing is obvious: a mod just decided to post something, and turned on comments on for the sake of comments. What’s the deal with trying to figure that out as if it’s some kind of high level management decision?
Yo dawg, slow your roll. Yes, that is the easy explanation. I just wanted more information before jumping to any conclusions. Not all of us (read: I) were deeply familiar with the moderator dynamics nor had a reason to be.
Again either way I’ve made my choice to be here, so to me, it doesn’t really matter what’s going on beyond my own curiosity.
Throwing in that comment about Son_of_Sophroniscus was pretty out there! My roll would be pretty damn slow had you just left that out. But instead we’ve got that, people talking about a “weird/bad vibe”, reading tea leaves all over the shop…
But even in just your own case, it seems like the opposite of not jumping to conclusions to throw in references to old mods going alt right that bear absolutely zero relationship to any of the handful of posts on the “resurrected” sub
It’s getting taken over by new, more compliant mods after it got abandoned by the OG mods, expect a sharp drop in quality of content too.
lmao, are you doing a bit? What the fuck could you possibly know, and why didn’t you check the easily checkable history of the sub’s modlist? The fact that you felt compelled to make this up should, frankly, embarrass you away from offering your comments on anything to do with either the sub or this instance at all
completely-ineffable was the original mod, hence being first on the mod list, so not really no
