Hi there. I need to use my phone for work, but want to isolate anything that is work related. What’s the recommended way of doing so these days? Found the Foss app called Shelter, but found it to be a bit buggy and seems to have been a while since previous update. Let me know about any tips or recommendations regarding this! 🙌

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Why not a second user profile?

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Not sure why i didnt think of using the stock option for this tbh. But isnt that what shelter and these apps do anyway? What are the differences?

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I’m just an average user, I don’t think I can give an accurate answer… But check this out…

Super helpful community. Tons of info available.

https://grapheneos.org/

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/

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With Graphene, the recommended way is to use separate profiles, not Shelter or similar apps. Check out the official Graphene account on their forum:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12503-shelter-versus-native-gos-app-isolation-tradeoffs/10

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thanks for pointing this out :)

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I have a Pixel 8 pro (with stock OS) and use Shelter to isolate my work apps. I have not had any issues. Super nice being able to just pause the whole suite of apps when I’m on PTO / away and don’t want to be bothered.

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I’ve used Island in the past and it worked fine

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Island doesnt block main profile contact snooping by an app in the work profile. I recommend shelter for anyone who isnt set on either.

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Interesting, could you share the fdroid link to that? Not seeing it on fdroid/droidify

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Looks like it’s only on the play store and GitHub, you could use obtainium. But it’s not been updated since 2023 apparently.

https://github.com/oasisfeng/island

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There is a maintained fork of Island on F-Droid, called Insular:
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.oasisfeng.island.fdroid/

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You realize even if its isolated that if anything ever goes wrong at work, they have every right to take your phone yeah?

Never put work things on a personal phone. I don’t know if im just lucky, or if you have every right to do this but; if work requires putting something on your phone, make them buy you a new phone, a work specific phone. I’ve had to sign a few contracts ensuring the phone lives, but I’ve atleast never had to hand over a personal phone for work.

(With the added benefit of being able to turn off my work phone and being fully free from work)

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With at-will employment, it could be grounds for termination in many instances if you refuse

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If your phone contains company material they absolutely can and will. Including the US. You were only lucky because you had a union that was on your side. The vast majority of Americans are not in a union and would not be afforded this luxury.

Speaking of, it was actually my Union jobs that allowed me to demand a work specific phone. If I was in your position I would have demanded they give me a work phone if it required a work app

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You realize even if its isolated that if anything ever goes Wrong at work, they have every right to take your phone yeah?

I’m sure you have a law to point, right? Because it sure sounds made up.

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There is no law, because its not illegal to do. Or maybe I’m wrong and their is a law specifically saying its okay to do this.

Bottom line? Any time work has told me to get a work related app, or whenever it was hinted at, you can bet your ass that they’ll have some you sign something as well.

I’ve also heard plenty of stories that this has happened. Don’t learn the hard way by installing work related apps on your personal phone.

Not to mention the few times I’ve told work that I simply will not install a work related app, and have gotten work phones.

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There is no law, because its not illegal to do. Or maybe I’m wrong and their is a law specifically saying its okay to do this.

They have the right to take your property but that law isn’t written anywhere? I agree you’re wrong, but not on what you think

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