“Google kills Chromecast and replaces it with something that it will also kill and replace in a few years”
I made the mistake of buying Google Homes years ago. They got badly nerfed last year — Google removed the ability to read recipes out loud, which is the main thing I used it for. They also crippled the API so that I can no longer add tasks to Todoist. I’m never buying another Google product.
If I wanted a streaming box I’d buy or build a streaming box. If I wanted anyone with my remote control to be able to access my YouTube viewing history and all my streaming accounts I’d make it happen. What I want is a cheap dongle that my family and guests can use to quickly share media to the big screen!
Isn’t that what a Chromecast is? The one I have, you just connect to the wifi and it shows up as a cast target. It doesn’t do anything else.
Yes but they discontinued them in favor of Google TV, and they also heavily nerfed the capabilities by putting Google TV apps on there. For instance I now often have to pull out the virtual remote in the YouTube app to make a pop-up go away so I can watch the YouTube video I cast.
Try out Smarttubenext. Made watching YouTube on my chromecast with Google TV enjoyable again.
I own multiple gens of Chromecasts from gen 1 to to CCwGTV
I have no idea wtf you are talking about.
I click cast, I click the device I’m casting to, it works, never had this issue on any of my devices abd all of them are set to auto update and afaik running latest versions.
Why is this being framed this way.
Rebranding the next gen of your product isn’t “killing” it, people are so fucking clickbaitable.
It’s the same product, just next gen with better specs abd they’re going with a new simpler brand name than “Chromecast with Google TV” (yes that’s the actual product name before) and instead the next gen is named “Google TV Streamer”
It’s the exact same thing, and all existing hardware will keep working.
Chromecasts are standalone and effectively just running a modified version of Android. They can’t really be “killed” as they work over local network. Theoretically any chromecast will last forever as it’s functionality is based off a specified open source protocol, so as long as you have a device that can output it (cast), you can cast to your chromecast.
So it’s impossible to “kill”. I have a gen 1 chromecast that still 100% works fine today.
Newer Chromecasts ahem Google TVs just have more features, like apps you can install and sideload.
People are dumb for falling for this clickbait title.
I get what you’re saying, but these new ones are twice the price of the 4K Chromecast. It sucks that they’re killing the $30 HD Chromecast as well, its great for my spare TV. I wouldn’t want to pay 3x that price for essentially the same functionality if I need to replace it.
I know there’s other Android TV boxes that are comparable, but Google’s offering was an easy go-to.
I wrote it up elsewhere, but I don’t mind the price point.
The built in ethernet port covers a lot of that.
A solid quality ethernet dongle is gonna be $25, so now that’s $75 for the 4k CCwGTV + ethernet.
So you’re paying $25 extra for the better form factor (2 chained dongles look so bad), the extra ram, better processor, etc
For some folks that might not matter, but I use Steam Link on my CCwGTV and those specs will likely make a tangible boost in gaming performance for quality, frame rate, latency, input lag, etc.
So in my demographic of people gaming with em, I 100% expect it’ll be a popular upgrade.
The ethernet part is pretty big, overall. Don’t overbook that.
I’m not denying that these features are a welcome addition, I’m just lamenting the loss of the cheaper version for use-cases where those features arent really needed.
I pretty much just watch Youtube on my bedroom TV, and I got one for my mom so she can watch Netflix on her 10 year old 720p 32”. I don’t want to pay $100 for that.
I might get the new one for Steam Link in the living room though, that does sound sick.
There are so many cheaper better options that Google can’t really compete in that space. Onn set top box is half the cost and so is the fire stick. It’s one of those things where people aren’t gonna go with the cheap Google product when they can get a better cheap product elsewhere there’s dozens of random Chinese companies also making the little streaming sticks and as more streaming companies upgrade their services these smaller offerings are gonna be less likely to sell because they don’t do 4K well, don’t do 8K and don’t offer the functionality of larger boxes. I’m thinking really hard about swapping out my shield TV for one of these.
There’re so many other products that come with Chromecast built in too. Receivers for home entertainment systems, tvs, sound bars. Even if the smaller streaming sticks weren’t ubiquitous it’s hard to tell someone to buy one that’s gonna take up a dedicated HDMI port when they can buy a TV with it already built in. And for the rest of us there’s stuff like this.
I’m not saying that the Chromecast doesn’t have its place. I’m saying I didn’t think we’d even get this kind of refresh of the product this go round. People only upgrade when what they have stops working and I feel like a lot of the market already has a tiny streaming stick.
Ok, but my gen 1 Chromecast stopped working years ago, and it was sluggish, unreliable to cast to and virtually unusable long before that. My Chromecast Ultra has steadily declined in usability too, the whole Chromecast UX has fallen off a cliff the past few years. It used to be fucking magic and just worked with everything. Now my Chromecast with Google TV only really works satisfactorily when I bother to update smarttube and pair it with the code.
The whole platform is trash these days compared to the original gen 1 experience. I went from living in the future, only using my phone to watch TV 10 years ago, to slowly migrating back to a fucking remote control like it’s 1980 again. Say what you want, but the promise that gen 1 Chromecast delivered on has been dead and buried for a while now.
I hate the remote control. OG Chromecast you just used your phone or computer to control everything. You could turn volume up or down which doesn’t fucking work on the new gen w/o the remote bc it relies on actually changing the volume setting on the TV itself whereas the old one just lowered the volume being transmitted from the device to the TV. The whole platform has been enshitified. There was no way to cram ads into the old Chromecast so they decided to make it be a shitty smart TV type dongle that you need to log into every app on to make functionality even work where before the login was just on your phone. Now if a guest is over, they can’t even cast because they are signed in on a different account. Everything is worse on the new Chromecast, but hey, my boomer mom loves having a remote now.
I don’t think anyone is saying that chromecast as a “functionality” is being killed. It’s not the same product, the new one is a set top box compared to the current dongle, with better specs and 3 times the price. People would buy multiple chromecast dongles to have it all around their house or to carry it when traveling. Now, many will not do it with this set top box.
They kept the same name and functionality but definitely “killed” the old product - chromecast dongle which everyone knows as chromecast.
Thank you!! I read the first article about it and was worried Google killed support for the cast protocol. But it’s literally a rebrand for a new product. Yes, they are discontinuing the 4k basic Chromecast but I guess it didn’t sell enough? I don’t expect any company to indefinitely offer a product because I seem to like it personally.
Not that I want to particularly defend Google, they do have track record of killing useful products. But this is not that.
Is there any open source chrome cast? I know of one project but it required a special server as well. I just want to plug something into my HDMI port so I can cast dumb YouTube videos, why does it have to be this hard.
All I want is something that I can put on a raspberry pi, and then from my phone use the “share” menu to share a URL to some app that communicates with the pi and plays the video URL.
Why doesn’t that exist yet? Share YouTube video to rasp. Pi, then have and controls on the phone app.
Have a look at LibreELEC “just enough OS for Kodi” for the Pi - at least if you plan on using it primarily for running Kodi as a “casting receiver”. (LibreELEC even supports Docker containers as Kodi add-ons too, if you need the Pi to run more than just Kodi.)
- Kodi will natively play some types of links shared to it through the “Kore” remote app’s “Play on Kodi” in the share menu.
- Even more types of links are supported with the right add-ons such as YouTube links through Invidious add-on (or YouTube add-on with your own token), local broadcasters’ VoD content, some paid streaming services and many more but it’s a bit hit and miss…
- With DLNA enabled in Kodi, many more types of stream URLs can be extracted from websites and sent to Kodi with apps like “Web Video Caster”. I think this one has the option of routing the stream through the phone (which is only necessary for some types of streams).
Depending on your media consumption habits and requirements, it might not be the perfect solution, but possibly prettttty good one for a Raspberry Pi.
https://github.com/MayaPosch/NymphCast this exists. I built a proxmox server and patched qemu so I could have a gaming virtual machine, and yet that repo looks like more work than I want to do 😅
You can install LineageOS on one of the models of Chromecast for Android TV.
This looks great. My Chromecast just died so I replaced it with a Google TV Chromecast thing, so I don’t have the bootloader exploit. Gonna look at the “unofficial” exploits they mention soon.
Does lineage let you cast to it through?
That’s literally what a chromecast is.
I have multiple generations of them, and casting a YouTube video is 2 clicks.
- Cast button
- Pick what device to cast to.
Done.
The new Chromecast TV bullshit makes it a bit more complicated, but the article also says that Google is making changes.
I agree with you though, I have used a Chromecast as my main way to get stuff on my TV for years and years. I don’t want them to complicate it or make me sign in to it, etc.
That’s literally what a chromecast is.
Which is why they are asking if there is an open source alternative, now that Google getting rid of the Chromecast
Oh well, off to the graveyard
