A man taking his trash to an apartment dumpster was shot and killed after he slipped while walking and the gun he was carrying went off accidentally, according to San Antonio police.

117 points

So…we needed…some bad guys with guns to…save this guy…from shooting…himself. By shooting him first. Am I doing this right?

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79 points

At least nobody stole his trash, which was bound to happen if he had been unarmed.

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10 points

No, they needed a good gun, with a guy.

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6 points

Schrodinger’s Gun Owner is simultaneously the Good Guy With a Gun and the Bad Guy With a Gun until the gun discharges and collapses the wave function.

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1 point

I mean, I this case the problem (improper and irresponsible use of a firearm) kind of fixed itself, didn’t it?

Like… Nothing to see here, just a Darwin Award recipient.

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65 points

USE THE FUCKING SAFETY YOU IDIOTS

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47 points

Some guns, shockingly, don’t have a safety.

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25 points

Don’t buy those guns idiots

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37 points

I have a couple without external safeties. The idea is to carry them in a fitted holster that covers the trigger. Kydex holsters are like $25 or $30 for any given model, it’s a no-brainer.

Also, they have internal safeties to prevent firing when dropped. Also, they have long and hard trigger pulls.

Don’t buy those guns idiots

You need to pass this wisdom on to thousands and thousands of police and military forces across the planet. Because Glock.

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2 points

Also, if you’re an idiot, don’t buy any gun! You may think “I’ll do what I want, I’ll be fine!” This guy probably did, too…

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3 points

S&W SD9 is one of those. Designed for first time home protection. The trigger has two steps to fire, preventing it from going off if dropped.

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2 points

What? And those are legal in the US? It’s worse than I thought.

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Well first of all there is more than one kind of “safety.” There are guns that don’t have a switch on the side that says “go bang” and “don’t go bang.” Glocks, for example.

A Glock pistol doesn’t have a manual safety. It has a drop safety, which is a little tab that prevents the firing pin from going forward that is moved out of the way by the pull of the trigger. That way there’s no way you can drop, hit or shake the gun to make it go off without actually pulling the trigger. If you look at the trigger of a Glock, it looks like there’s two; like there’s a second trigger that sticks out of the first one. You see this on power tools too, it’s a little lever that prevents the trigger from being pulled unless you first push that out of the way. That makes it a lot less likely to fire if you brush the trigger against something; you have to put your finger in the trigger guard, push the trigger safety down out of the way, and then pull the trigger.

Also, the way a Glock works, you can’t load a round into the chamber without cocking the action, and you can’t decock the action without pulling the trigger and firing the gun. (assuming no ammunition malfunctions here) When the gun is cocked, the trigger snaps forward, when the gun isn’t cocked, the trigger stays back. It is common practice when carrying a Glock to carry it with a full magazine, an empty chamber and the action uncocked. With no cartridge in the chamber and the action uncocked, trying to pull the trigger won’t do anything because it’s already “back”. You’d need to pull the slide back to cock the gun and chamber a round, then it’ll go bang. If you’ve fired a couple rounds, and the chamber is loaded and the gun is cocked, the way you return it to the carry state is to remove the magazine, pull back the slide to eject the round in the chamber, point the gun in a safe direction and pull the trigger to dry fire the gun.

On the more primitive side, you have single-action revolvers. A single-action only revolver means the trigger ONLY does the job of releasing the hammer so it can fire the cartridge. If the hammer is forward, it has to be pulled back with the user’s thumb or other hand to cock the action and rotate the cylinder to the next chamber. There’s no need for a lever on the side of the gun because you already need to fiddle with a lever on the back of the gun. If the gun has been recently fired, the hammer will be resting on a spent cartridge. I have heard some say it is good practice to carry such a gun with the hammer resting on an empty chamber, which is basically the same idea as the Glock above; you’re loaded with one fewer round than the absolute maximum but carrying in a way where there’s no bullet aligned with the barrel and ready to go.

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1 point

Have you ever heard of a revolver? Most of those do not, and are one of the oldest designs still in use.

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2 points

I remember reading the manual for a new powertool and it said something like this:

To start the blade, disengage the safety (European models), then press the trigger.

Baffled me.

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Am I missing something or are there just no gun owners here. This is incredibly disingenuous, and even dangerous, “advice”.

A loaded gun with a round in the chamber should fire when the trigger is pulled, every single time. They should not fire when the trigger is not pulled.

Following any one of the three safety rules prevents 100% of “accidents”. There are no real gun accidents besides catastrophic mechanical failure (which does happen, but usually with shit ammo and shit guns or poorly maintained guns).

Depending on traditional safeties encourages poor gun handling habits and adds precious time to fire when milliseconds count. “Safety-less” pistols will not fire unless the trigger is pulled, period.

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12 points

Yeah, no shit. And having a safety makes it near impossible to pull the trigger. I don’t think anyone here doesn’t understand the concept of a safety mechanism.

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Safty-less pistol owner here. Glock-19 Gen3. Even though the gun is resistant to firing unless the trigger is pulled (ie dropping it) it won’t go off. That being said, I never carry with a round chambered because of this. It takes a half a second extra to chamber the round, I’d rather take that than carry a loaded round pointed at my spine or crotch all day.

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Are you saying his parents should have used a condom?

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15 points

Or perhaps don’t carry a gun when doing mundane tasks such as taking out the trash?

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A lot of guns don’t have safeies. But having holstered or even just not having his finger on the trigger would have saved his life.

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52 points

Thank God he was safe from whatever threat he was so afraid of that he thought he needed a loaded gun to take his trash to the end of his driveway.

I’m so fucking glad that I’m not so terrified of everything and everyone that I think I need a loaded gun 24 hours a day to protect myself.

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take his trash

I was this-many reads in when I finally understood he wasn’t TALKING trash to his dumpster.

“You want a piece of me, you smelly filth, you rubbish heap, you trumpsterfire of human indecen–BANG! Arghhhhhh…”

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That’s what you get for talking trash to your trash!

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His biggest threat was himself.

Glad he took care of that.

Now he is no longer a threat to himself.

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Try living in Alaska or northern Canada and you’d delete your comment.

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Doubt it. While there are wild areas with actual dangerous animals and it’s prudent to have a way to protect yourself, I find it hard to believe I’d ever be in such fear of the place I live to carry a weapon at all times.

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Okay then, here’s a better one: try living in Gaza, Israel, or Ukraine and you’d delete your comment.

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4 points

I’m assuming you’re referring to wildlife and not suggesting that Canadians are just vicious

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48 points

Damn, should have had a good gun to stop his bad one.

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6 points

I don’t know why people keep saying this. He DID take out the person threatening his neighborhood.

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41 points

Guns don’t kill people… Wait, yes they do, this article proves it.

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If only there was a good gun with a gun there to save him…

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8 points

Good for the gun. It had nothing to lose but its chains.

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0 points

Actually it was the bullet, not the gun.

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Guns don’t killed people I kill people

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