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26 points

This is exciting, and I’m hopeful that this will accelerate her momentum. But I don’t think we can count Trump out yet. If nothing else, he’s usually good at playing to his base.

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38 points

Harris has a lot of pressure on her. People are basically expecting a total domination from her, so anything less than that could derail her momentum very fast. And Trump might be terrible at classic debating, but he is actually very adept at bulldozing others by ignoring speaking in turns, deploying a fire hose of lies and misinformation and loudly talking over others.

Let’s hope for good moderation.

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24 points

I’d like to hear an “anyway” when he’s done and she gets back to her point. Like completely ignore his existence for a moment.

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5 points

Yes. I would love to hear her say, literally, “I heard everything you said but I didn’t hear anything worth listening too. Anyway back on topic.”

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5 points

I don’t know, that seems like something the Dems of old would do. “They go low, we go high” kind of thing. And also would let Trump completely control the flow, which is what he wants. I suspect the only way to beat him is to match him in loudness and push back with authority.

I don’t think you can beat him by being “fair”, you have to beat him at his own game.

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9 points

Once he starts, he won’t stop. So that would be a failed plan by Harris.

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12 points

She isn’t allowed to get frustrated because she’s a black woman. That’s the sad reality.

Not only that but she can’t come across as condescending either because she’s a black woman.

At the end of the day she must cater to low-info battleground state swing-voters. That is her target audience because she can do no right in the eyes of maga and she doesn’t really have to worry about Democrats.

So what will someone like my uncle who fits that description respond positively to in such a debate?

Probably not a pissing contest, but constantly pivoting directly to saying, “look I hear you. I understand many of you are feeling the pressure in the economy. You’ve been told it’s getting better but many of you aren’t feeling it. I understand. But we have a plan to relieve some of that pressure. And while we aren’t where we want to be, our country has recovered following the pandemic better than any country in the world. Slow and steady wins the race, and electing someone as volatile as Donald Trump who only helps his rich friends will not help the markets.”

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3 points

Maybe say something like “well that was weird” and then, like you say, just go back to her point.

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I liked how Pete buttejudge handled it on Fox News last week. He just kept talking as if the host wasn’t there.

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Remember that Harris is an experienced prosecutor. Her literal job has been dealing with liars, cheats, and various scummy and desperate lawyers for years. If anyone can shut down the Trump oral vomit, it’s going to be her.

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9 points

She is, but Trump is special. I don’t know that any previous experience will necessarily apply. In the courtroom she would have always been empowered by speaking from a position of authority - Trump will show her no such decorum.

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In the actual courtroom he was insulting the jury, and even a judge who could issue contempt charges was struggling to keep order.

Or the previous trial described by the news as “tantrums in court”, talking over the witnesses and arguing with the judge.

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32 points

And then later he’ll back out

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29 points

He’s lied and said Harris agreed to a debate on Fox first. So when she “backs out” of that, it will be his excuse for backing out of ABC.

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17 points

But that doesn’t matter. He needs the debate more than she does. There’s never going to be a debate on Fox News because they aren’t unbiased.

Democrats have most likely learned their lesson. Unless you’re a rhetorical genius like John Stewart or Bernie Sanders, Fox News is a death trap.

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20 points

The Harris/Walz campaign very swiftly made several public statements the FOX debate will not be happening.

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8 points

This will be epic. I can’t wait.

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97 points

Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?

Sweet lord Almighty. He is scared out of his mind.

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68 points

Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?

Considering the subject, you’re going to have to be more specific.

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36 points

Dude it was EVERYTHING lmao.

Crowd size

2020 election

Biden dropping out

The size of the room they were in

That there was a peaceful transfer of power in 2020

His leads in every state

It was wild that his campaign allowed this to happen.

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2 points

I mean they let him pick Vance for VP. Pretty sure this trump train 2024 has a cut brake cable

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