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Once again, 105 comments and nothing about the actual article and it’s information. Plenty of xenophobic comments against a population of a country (like the U.S. government is that great, so therefor I must be exactly like my political leaders). The Chess players had already competed against each other and the other player who was poisoned won by a default with a tie. There’s some other reporting about a confrontation between the two and they’ve known each other for years apparently.

Chessbase said the dispute was over a recent match between the two in which “both chess players scored the same number of points, but the victory was awarded to Osmanova, based on additional factors.”

Another Telegram channel says that the issue was about negative statements made by Osmanova about Abakarova and her family members.

One Russian news outlet said that the two had known each other for years but had recently fought. In this version of the story, Abakarova showed up to one recent match with a phone, which is against the rules. Osmanova was upset but did not tell the judges. “She should have been grateful to me that I didn’t make a fuss and forgave her,” Osmanova said. “Instead, Amina refused to shake my hand during the competition last week.”

Definitely not ok either way and I hope that they get a sentencing that matches the crime. This is just a bitter crazy person it seems and has nothing to do about poisoning to win a match. Love the disconnect on the sports world and rampant cheating like it doesn’t exist everywhere lol.

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…guy fucking lemms.

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russians prove they can’t win anything legitimately

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…this was a regional tournament, in the Caucasus Republic of Dagestan.

So calling them Russian is technically accurate, but really they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.

Also, you’ll find this kind of crazy anywhere you go. She literally just dumped mercury around her opponents chess board when she thought no one was around to notice.

I get why it’s catching headlines, but give me a break. It’s just crazy being crazy.

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So calling them Russian is technically accurate

The word Russian has two meanings in English. It can mean relating to the country of Russia, or relating to the Rus ethnicity.

The Russian language distinguishes the two. The first is росси́йский. The second is ру́сский. Both words are translated as “Russian” in English, which causes confusion in English, but there’s no such confusion in Russian.

These people (Dagestanis) are Russian in the first sense, but not the second sense.

Historically, the second sense of “Russian” included Ukrainians and Belarussians (so you could say Ukrainians were Russian in the second sense, but not the first sense) but it’s become controversial to do so since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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Interesting! thanks for elaborating. A week or month ago, a local Ukrainski politician, I thought it was a lady person, proclaimed that using the Russian language the invaders use is like spitting in the face of your home country. She got a hell of a lot of pushback on that. That made it seem that a lot of locals still prefer Russian to Ukrainian language. Can you shed some light on those conflicting sentiments?

Was inspired to educate myself a bit extra on Cyrillic script, so, from the english wiki:

"As of 2011, around 252 million people in Eurasia use it as the official alphabet for their national languages. About half of them are in Russia. " … "The Slavic languages are conventionally (that is, also on the basis of extralinguistic features) divided into three subgroups: East, South, and West, which together constitute more than 20 languages. Of these, 10 have at least one million speakers and official status as the national languages of the countries in which they are predominantly spoken: Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian (of the East group), Polish, Czech and Slovak (of the West group), Bulgarian and Macedonian (eastern members of the South group), and Serbo-Croatian and Slovene (western members of the South group) "

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I can only approach this from the English language, which is why I said technically correct. But I also feel the article should have done a lot better job explaining that they were Dagestani, which is not unreasonable as if this had happened in Chechnya, it would have said Chechen.

Also, I have never seen Russian used interchangeably with Ukrainian, or Belarusian, before or after, 2014. But again, maybe that’s just my English language only bias.

That said, I do appreciate you writing on the explainer for other users who aren’t familiar with the status of, or distinction between Russia and the Caucasus.

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they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia

TBF even Russia is a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.

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Except maybe the competition for most war crimes committed, but they are closely rivaled by the Israeli fascists

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Japan, maybe? Or like the Khmer Rouge? I’m not saying the Nazis aren’t monsters because they totally are, I’m just saying the competition might be closer than you think.

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Very not true, Kaspersky® just won a legitimate label as malware.

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Kasperskyⓜⓐⓛⓦⓐ®ⓔ

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Dina would like a word.

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who?

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Yeah! Take that Kasparov! You can’t win anything!

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What an imbecile. Mercury is a planet. It is too large to be hidden anywhere on a chess board

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Wrong. Mercury is a god. He’s much too powerful to do the biddings of a puny mortal.

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You’re both wrong, it’s a car. I’m pretty crazy about one though.

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You all were close but, still wrong. Marie Curie was a scientist.

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I hear it’s in Gatorade

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This comment is an underrated gem.

Bravo sir.

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not in microwave?

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Gators are too big to fit in the bottles, can’t be that

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Seeing as mercury fumes are the real danger (you can fairly safely handle elemental mercury, it won’t absorb into the skin) this seems like an exceptionally poor poisoning attempt. Maybe if you put a fan behind you so the fumes only waft into the opponents face…

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Yeah I have so many questions. How would both players not get poisoned? Does mercury evaporate? I played with thermometer mercury as a child, does that explain things?

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