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Wait… what?? Isn’t america the best country in the world?

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It is by many measures. But there are a lot of problems too.

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You know, I’m not sure one measure by which America is the best country in the world, at least with a metric that matters to the average person. So not like GDP, number of billionaires, or number of prisoners.

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No, Kazakhstan is. All other countries are run by little girls.

Australia is run by Arisa Trew so we’re doing pretty well at the moment.

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It’s not a lie. It’s a point of view. It’s a declaration of intent. Being #1 isn’t a privilege, it’s a responsibility, and a choice.

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Sorry, bullshit.

It’s always “we’re the beat, we’re the best at X” whereas the reality is that you have rampant poverty, institutionalized racism (hello US police forces!), shit and unaffordable healthcare with (apparently) doctors who put their religion over their Hippocratic oath, unaffordable education which doesn’t get you a good job anymore anyways, you don’t work to live, you live to work, you have almost no vacation days whatsoever, you have no free days agter when your baby is born,you can’t do anything anymore without a car, you have no freedoms, but they convinced you that parading around military style weapons is freedom somehow. You teach little children at school that sex is wrong, but it’s good to knoe what to do when the next mass murderer visits your school again. Your police is racist, uneducated, inept, and corrupt… I could go on, but you get the idea.

Sorry, America sucks, to paraphrase someone else in this thread: it’s a third world country wearing the mask of a first world country.

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Right. Being #1 means being the best. “We are the best at X” is an equivalent statement to “We’re #1”.

Not disputing that.

What I’m saying is that both of those statements can be, and are, statements of intent.

You really think a pizza place claiming “The best pizza in NYC!” thinks they’re stating an objective fact? No, they’re stating their commitment to acting as if that’s their role. It’s a commitment to excellence and striving.

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Yeaaahhh, about that.

First of all that’s not how language works. If you say A but then when called out on it say “well actually I meant b to be like a” then you’re just lying

Then, that intent kind of becomes questionable too when your pizza parlor is rat infested and your pizzas are covered in mold. The US has great things, like all countries, but all takeb together I consider it a third world nation that ban barely get by.

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The vast majority of people I see declaring we’re #1 are taking credit for it but not working to be the best in the world. It’s the people who are saying we shouldn’t help other people outside the US (or even inside). It’s not a declaration of intent for most people. It’s a badge of pride that they don’t deserve and don’t intend to maintain.

If it actually were used like you imply, I don’t doubt we would be the best. It would require us working to improve the world around us, not just benefit ourselves. Usually it’s said out of nationalism though, not optimism.

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Realizing that being trans isn’t a disorder or a"problem" and that being myself is important regardless of the stigma.

It’s been downhill for Amerikkka sense then. More I learn about this country the more i absolutely hate it.

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When I gave the books Manufacturing Consent and Consequences of Capitalism a fair chance, and learned about the brutal reality of our foreign policy that goes completely ignored in our history books

Also finding the channel Knowing Better on YouTube and learning much more about the history of Slavery and Native Americans

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Great reads, also a great channel on YT.

Have you watched Second Thought videos? You’ll like them: https://youtube.com/@secondthought

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Yeah, I don’t watch them too much but I do support that channel.

Also GDF when it comes to imperialist/colonialist conflicts, Leeja Miller on any US issues from a legal lense, and Hasan Piker on political commentary

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It is #1.

I say this having traveled around the world to experience everything from extreme poverty to extreme wealth.

By most measures, the US is still the best place to live for a vast majority of everyone.

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They really did a good job of brainwashing you, and many others.

It’s far from the best or even one of the best, objectively. It’s not even close to the top.

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If you’re wealthy it’s the best place to live. If you’re not it sucks. Source, someone who’s travelled a bit, including the States, and has a reasonable amount to compare it to.

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My parents are American and I spent almost half of my life in the USA. Like you I have also traveled around the world. Possibly my view is skewed because I’m currently traveling around the Gulf states (Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida) on vacation and they are super poor, but to claim that the US is better than almost anywhere in Europe is crazy to me. Japan and South Korea and New Zealand also seemed nicer. Heck, you only have to cross the border to Canada to get to a place more more rational. Every place has problems, and not every place is great for every person, but the US is far down on the list of places that I would want to live ever again.

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It is only good for high income individuals and the owners. Everybody else is eating shit.

What are you basing this claims on?

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if ‘everyone’ means white men from wealthy families. The pollution and iffy food regulations alone make it pretty shit for the actual average person.

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It’s not even in the top ten

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country

Even the fucking Cato institute puts the US at like 19th for freedom.

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index/2023

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