James Cameron on AI: “I warned you guys in 1984 and you didn’t listen”::undefined

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scene: a scrap yard, full of torn-up cars

in a flash, a square-looking and muscular man appears

he walks into a bar, and when confronted by an angry biker he punches him in the face and steals his clothes & aviator sunglasses

scene: the square-looking man walks into an office and confronts a scared-looking secretary

Square man: I am heyah to write fuhst drafts of movie scripts and make concept aht!

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6 points

He seems like the average reddit user raises nose

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What a pompous statement. Stories of AI causing trouble like this predate him by decades. He’s never told an original story, they’re all heavily based on old sci-fi stories. And exactly how were people supposed to “listen”? “Jimmy said we shouldn’t work on AI, we all need to agree as a species to never do that. Thank you for saving us all Prophet Cameron!”

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No one has told an “original” story.

It’s a self indulgent and totally assinine remark but at least he’s saying something.

One minute the Internet simps for this guy; the next, he’s a hack.

Go figure

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Plenty of people have told “original” stories.

My remark was self indulgent and totally as[s]inine, but I’m just saying something too, where’s my pass?

The internet doesn’t act as a single cohesive entity.

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Plenty of people have told “original” stories.

Stories that are popular can be legal rip offs from something that is vaguely similar but never gained much exposure. So, what?

“I told a story that the world is familiar with and has sufficient relevance to the issues of today but nobody heeded the warning”

“uhh, yeah, but it wasn’t original”

My remark was self indulgent and totally as[s]inine, but I’m just saying something too, where’s my pass?

Sorry, I guess you probably have made a significant contribution that’s relevant to this glaring issue in society that we’re all trying to come to grips with?

The internet doesn’t act as a single cohesive entity

No, but a significant portion of it does act as a single, cohesive entity. Enough to perpetuate memes into popularity that glorify one and simultaneously villify another.

That’s self evident.

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One minute the Internet simps for this guy; the next, he’s a hack.

if one person thinks one thing and another person thinks a different thing, that doesn’t make them both hypocrites even if they are both on the internet

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Sure, but you can definitely guage the level of popularity of one take over another.

At that point, the one which dominates is obviously going to be the one holds the status quo

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4 points

In fact, what is happening now sounds a lot more like Colossus: The Forbin Project (came out in 1970) than The Terminator.

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11 points

First he warned us about ai and nobody listened then he warned the submarine guy and he didn’t listen. We have to listen to him about the giant blue hippy aliens or we’ll all pay.

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Did anyone watch “Unknown Killer Roboter on netflix”? The AI-jet-pilot and the drone swarms scared the hell out of me. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/jul/10/unknown-killer-robots-review-the-future-of-ai-will-fill-you-with-unholy-terror

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Here’s the thing. The Terminator movies were a warning against government/army AI. Actually slightly before that I guess wargames was too. But, honestly I’m not worried about military AI taking over.

I think if the military setup an AI, they would have multiple ways to kill it off in seconds. I mean, they would be in a more dangerous position to have an AI “gone wild”. But not because of the movies, but because of how they work, they would have a lot of systems in place to mitigate disaster. Is it possible to go wrong? Yes. Likely? No.

I’m far more worried about the geeky kid that now has access to open source AI that can be retasked. Someone that doesn’t understand the consequences of their actions fully, or at least can’t properly quantify the risks they’re taking. But, is smart enough to make use of these tools to their own end.

Some of you might still be teenagers, but those that aren’t, remember back. Wouldn’t you potentially think it’d be cool to create an auto gpt or some form of adversarial AI with an open ended success criteria that are either implicitly dangerous and/or illegal, or are broad enough to mean the AI will see the easiest path to success is to do dangerous and/or illegal things to reach its goal. You know, for fun. Just to see if it would work.

I’m not convinced the AI is quite there yet to be dangerous, or maybe it is. I’ve honestly not kept close tabs on this. But, when it does reach that level of maturity, a lot of the tools are still open source, they can be modified, any protections removed “for the lols” or “just to see what it can do” and someone without the level of control a government/military entity has could easily lose control of their own AI. That’s what scares me, not a Joshua or Skynet.

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The army loves a chain of command. I don’t see this changing with AI. The army just putting AI in the commander’s seat and letting it roll just doesn’t sound credible to me.

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4 points

The biggest risk of AI at the moment is the same posed by the Industrial Revolution: Many professions will become obsolete, and it might be used as leverage to impose worse living conditions over those who still have jobs.

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That’s a real concern. In the long run it will likely backfire. AI needs human input to work. If it starts getting other AI fed as its input, things will start to go bad in a fairly short order. Also, that is another point. Big business is likely another probable source of runaway AI. I trust business use of AI less than anyone else.

There’s also a critical mass to unemployment to which revolution is inevitable. There would likely be UBI and an assured standard of living when we get close to that, and you’d be able to try to make extra money from your passion. I don’t doubt that corporations will happily dump their employees for AI at a moment’s notice once it’s proved out. Big business is extremely predictable in that sense. Zero forward planning beyond the current quarter. But I have some optimism that some common sense would prevail from some source, and they’d not just leave 50%+ of the population to die slowly.

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