75 points

slaps the hood of my 03 Acura shitbox type S

Yep, she’s a keeper.

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Yeah I plan to drive my Corolla shitbox into the ground. The only problem with my plan is that the earth will only be around for a few hundred million years. Maybe a few billion? And (as long as you do the maintenance on time) Corollas will last until the heat death of the universe.

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Its sad. I LOVE the concept of smart devices, the fact that you can do things so much more conveniently with little interaction. They can absolutely be done without being privacy nightmares, but apparently companies are not interested in that.

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And apparently neither are consumers

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55 points

I don’t care about my data. I have nothing to hide. Haha they can have my data if they want.

Literally everyone i know

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You’re missing the larger point. You dont have to have anything to hide for it to be an issue. They can now blackmail you for things they know about you, track you, use targeted advertising, listen in on your conversations. Hell, if there was a need to make you look guilty of a crime, with all the data on you, it wouldn’t be that difficult to do.

Doesn’t even get into the issues of fighting back against oppressive government, which isnmuch more difficult to do if they’re constantly spying on you.

But, you’re right, nothing to hide, so it’s not a big deal I guess.

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Then they act all butthurt when they get debt collectors harassing them on social media, or repos using location data to repo a car with missed payments, lol. All the J6 people are a great example of people fucking around with tech and committing crimes, then finding out belatedly :)

There’s lots of good, non-crime reasons why you might wanna protect your personal data, so you don’t get your identity stolen, your wife thrown in jail for an accidental pregnancy, or being any flavor of queer in a regressive state.

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7 points

In the case of cars there isn’t really an alternative. The study the article cites looked at a bunch of different manufacturers and found the all sucked for privacy.

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17 points

Same. I’ve been slowly adding more and more smart devices to my Home Assistant instance and seeing it all interact is super neat. That said, the search for products that work 100% local and don’t depend on the cloud is a total pain, outside of some products using the Zigbee standard and such.

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Zigbee and z-wave is the way to go, yeah. They work completely local and disconnected from the internet (in fact, they cannot directly connect to the internet).

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59 points

I post this a second time because this post is more active. What can we do to stop the transfer of data? Can we disconnect the antenna/modem that connects the cars to the Internet?

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16 points

I know my vehicle has a fuse to pull to disconnect the modem.

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12 points

Dont buy the car.

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43 points

Thanks for the advice, I’ll just walk 26 miles to work each day I guess…

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12 points

Get something made before 2017.

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3 points

They sell other cars you know?

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You can take public transportation. Oh wait, that requires governments to actually supply cities with useful and we’ll organized public transportation and since you’re probably in the US (the only country left that still uses the useless “miles” metric) and the US government has been bought up by (amongst others)car companies, there isn’t any meaningful pyblxi transportation left.

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3 points

That would’ve been possible when consumers had a choice but now it’s too late.

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45 points

This has been one of the major reasons I have no desire to buy a new car. I do not want a $30k IoT device that spies on me. Unfortunately, that is pretty much the norm now.

If/when I am forced to buy another, I’ll be looking hard into which ones are the easiest to rip the modem out of. Can’t be an IoT spying device without the internet.

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13 points

I’m looking into restomods myself. No need to buy a new car and rip it up.

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5 points

I wonder what your insurance company would say about that.

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People modify their cars all the time and my insurance company has no business tracking everything I do either.

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Fuck that insurance company. When mine shipped a couple of OBD-II connection boxes for us to install for our auto insurance, I sent them back. They told me I wouldn’t get their special discount if I didn’t install the trackers in our 2 vehicles. I said I’m not installing your tracker boxes regardless. I continue to have car insurance, and those alleged discounts didn’t really amount to much.

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I’m reposting this in every thread so anyone can see:

https://www.nissanusa.com/privacy.html

Sensitive personal information, including driver’s license number, national or state identification number, citizenship status, immigration status, race, national origin, religious or philosophical beliefs, sexual orientation, sexual activity, precise geolocation, health diagnosis data, and genetic information.

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Not sure why Nissan needs my sexual activity data but I can maliciously comply and make them regret asking for it.

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7 points

Keep sending images of goatse. But seriously speaking, it’s probably not humans that are collating and sifting the data. It’s all being fed to an algorithm.

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Humans have access to the databases. Now another human can go to the nissan’sheadquarters of their countries, and request by the law of this country, that nissan provides the name of every people who had gay sex in their nissans.

Then they can arrest them and execute them.

That’s the issue with collected datas. You ignore when some totilarist government will access those.

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All the more reason to poison the data. Make them think everyone has a breadfucking kink and that they spend their Friday nights getting anally inserted baby carrots beaten back out of them by pimp bodyguards for $1,000.

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11 points

Wtf. Genetic information. So they can take your DNA after bringing your car in for service and sell it?

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6 points

You joke, but I could see some bean counting fuck being all over that business idea

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2 points

I was not joking at all - this is exactly what their legal stance is. I agree someone at Nissan is very likely thinking about how to make money with this.

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8 points

sexual activity

What the fuck?

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3 points

Yes, exactly

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2 points

What how where and when

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