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My car’s company isn’t on the list, but I can’t imagine they’re any better. My car is a little older, though, so I don’t think it has any way to phone home with any data…

Do new cars make you sign into your wifi with them or something? Or do they need a data connection? I suppose you could just not connect them, or even modify the hardware so it can’t transmit. There’s a joke here about putting your car into airplane mode, but I can’t find it.

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Newsflash: you don’t need to put your car on the internet.

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There’s other sources of data: when you apply for financing, when you go for a service, and more.

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The frustrating thing is that there’s no clear way to know exactly how much you’re exposing yourself with this. Even the article (and related links) don’t spell it out adequately (IMO).

For example, I just purchased a new(ish) 2022 Nissan. I don’t have the Nissan app on my phone and I don’t subscribe to any of their connectivity services. Is my data staying in the car or is it finding some conduit back to Nissan? Is connecting my phone to the console for music and maps opening me up to Nissan’s data collection? Is using bluetooth for music and hand-free calls exposing my data? Is there any way to know the specific avenues for data collection that present a risk and how can they be mitigated?

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According to their Nissan page, your car seems to not be phoning home if you haven’t opted in. I don’t know if that applies to data they gather when you bought the car, and if you bring it in for service.

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If you didn’t get the app and don’t have any of their connectivity services, then there’s no privacy issue for you. Nissan isn’t going to pay to maintain millions upon millions of internet accounts just to connect data points on a random person driving their vehicle. They have no data frame on you to identify you, and if you never give it to them, they never will.

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So at what point do we just decide "Fuck companies, fuck revenue, fuck anybody who has, say, a million bucks to their name in cash and assets. No more money making unless you do it without screwing people. If you can’t, you fail. Good day. "

Tax the every living fuck out of the rich, destroy data even being collectable or sellable at all in any form.

Boom, 100,000% better world to live in immediately.

Obviously pipe dream, but I think this is really the mindset to take if humans are gonna be around and have anything resembling happy lives in say, 100 years.

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Problem with taxing the rich is that they just go to other countries with their money. Not saying we shouldnt, just that its not simple.

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Well then there 's a new tax for changing citizenship for people with multiple huge bank accounts. I dunno, the solution gonna be complicated whatever it is. Maybe the one thing every country can agree on, making taxes just unbearable for them wherever they are.

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And theres the flaw, something every country can agree on. Thats not happening unfortunately. Even if we could force all countries to do a certain thing, theres varying levels of corruptions everywhere that would prevent something like that in the first place. The closest we’ve come so far is probably oil sanctions on russia.

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@quackers @wheeldawg It becomes a race to the bottom then. Keep driving ultra rich tax rates down and you end at zero, or worse.

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Yep, i dont know the solution, but thats the reasoning behind it anyway

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Is the article valid only in the US or in Europe as well?

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